In message <4bcd14ef.8090...@zill.net>, Patrick Giagnocavo writes: > Mark Andrews wrote: > > In message <201004200022.o3k0m2ba007...@aurora.sol.net>, Joe Greco writes: > >>> That'd be easy if you were just starting up an ISP. What do you do with > >>> your existing customer base? If their current service includes a > >>> dynamic public IPv4 address, you can't gracefully take it away, without > >>> likey violating services T&Cs, government telco regulations etc. So > >>> you'll have to go through a formal process of getting agreement with > >>> customers to take them away. > >> I haven't seen any such documents or regulations. > > > > People purchaced the service on the understanding that they would > > get a Internet address. A address behind a NAT is not a Internet > > address, it's a *shared* Internet address which is a very different > > thing. > > Given that many ISPs put their sign-up documents, including contracts, > on-line, you can no doubt supply a link to such a document that has > legal terms that would preclude NATed service, yes? > > My recollection is only that I would be provided with "Internet service" > or "access to the Internet" . No mention of RFC1918 space or other > distinguishing information was given. > > Note in the below blurb no mention of publicly routable addresses...
It doesn't have to as the normal definition of a Internet address is a publically routable internet address. A address behind a NAT is not a Internet address (Big I Internet). If you supply something less than a full blown Internet access you need to point out the restriction otherwise I would expect you to be subject to "Bait and Switch" and other consumer protection laws. Mark > Comcast's contract states: > > "Comcast will provide you with dynamic Internet protocol ("IP") > address(es) as a component of HSI, and these IP address(es) can and do > change over time. You will not alter, modify, or tamper with dynamic IP > address(es) assigned to you or any other customer. You agree not to use > a dynamic domain name server or DNS to associate a host name with the > dynamic IP address(es) for any commercial purpose. You also agree not to > use any software that provides for static IP address(es) on or in > conjunction with any computer(s) or network device connected to HSI. If > applicable, Comcast will release and/or recover the dynamic IP > address(es) when the Service or this Agreement is disconnected, > discontinued, or terminated." > > --Patrick -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: ma...@isc.org