/me gestures at this thread

If you needed more reason that NANOG might not be the place to discuss email 
issues at any higher level than port numbers, this is it.

(I especially liked the "I use plain text everywhere!" message sent as HTML).

mailop lives at the perpetually-TLS-challenged 
https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop

ietf-smtp lives at https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-smtp

Cheers,
  Steve

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