And now:Ish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: From: "Craven, Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Response to the latest polemic of the Sea Shepherd (SS)below: SS SAYS: August 3, 1999 U.S. WHALE HUNT HARPOONS WASHINGTON TOURISM - summer resorts empty as tribe prepares to kill more whales Last spring's whale hunt by the Makah Indian tribe of Neah Bay, Washington, has triggered a long, disastrous summer for local tourism-dependent towns and businesses in Washington state. Occupied fishing boat slips at the Makah marina are down from a seasonal norm of 200 to about 75, and area resorts, at the height of the season, are surprisingly vacant. Local chambers of commerce, while acknowledging that the Makah's nationally televised shooting of a young Gray whale on May 17 has impacted tourism, have attempted to put the blame on poor weather. However, fishing and whale watching is booming just across the Canadian border in British Columbia. (Victoria, B.C., has passed a resolution condemning the Makah hunt.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Response to the SS: There is an elementary fallacy known as the "Fallacy of Post hoc Ergo Propter Hoc" (After this "therefore" because of this). Here we see it in action. For example if event Y follows event X and it is asserted that "therefore" event Y must have been caused by event X this commits the basic "post hoc" fallacy. Why? Because both events Y and X could both be effects of some other cause. Or, it could be that the collection and reporting of the data on events Y and X only give the impression of one event following the other through non-comparable data collection/reporting time periods. Or, it could be that there is no causal relationship at all between events Y and X--only a spurious and superficial correlation (e.g. Sun spots and economic cycles). Note above this tortured logic. The claim is that it could not be poor weather causing the drop in tourism as "right across the Canadian border in British Columbia" supposedly--asserted without data--"fishing and whale watching are booming." Even assuming the assertions of the SS to be correct, and I make no such assumption, the U.S. and Canadian economies although highly integrated, are still separate economies in some meaningful ways. Further, there is the matter of the exchange-rates between the Canadian Dollar and other currencies making tourism more attractive in Canada. Further, there is the matter of the extent of capitalization and pricing of tourism in Canada relative to the operations from the U.S. In short, there are many critical variables influencing levels of demand for various forms of tourism as well as demand differentials between adjacent places. Finally if indeed the whale hunt had some effect on discouraging whale watching, and not even one interview of a turned-away potential tourist was even offered (surprisingly given the SS's and self-proclaimed "Captain" Paul (legend-in his own-mind) Watson's demonstrated penchant for outright falsifications of data and opinions attributed to others) why not assume that what was is discouraging tourism is the harassment of Makah whalers by the SS? It would appear to be a more logical assumption as without the harassment of the SS and the media it draws the whale watchers would likely not even know or be in a position to see the Makah whale hunt. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- SS SAYS: The National Marine Fisheries Service is investigating the possibility that the Gray whale the Makah shot on May 17 was a "resident" whale. The Makah have announced they will hunt again when the whales start to migrate south in October, and may take a whale before their Makah Days celebration August 28. "They were out practicing on the water last week," said Captain Paul Watson, president of Sea Shepherd. "They're getting ready to go out again, and they're talking about taking as many as five whales." Sea Shepherd notes that the tribe is now proposing to go hunting just after a spring Gray whale migration that had the highest mortality rate ever recorded. Scientists are unsure as to the cause. Opinion polls and Washington newspapers have reported overwhelming public opposition to the Makah hunt. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Response to the SS: Note the above disjointed and unrelated--and undocumented--assertions. Simple plays to emotion. What "Washington newspapers" and what "opinion polls" have pointed out what "overhwelming oppoistion"? What are the sample sizes of the opinion polls? Who commissioned and who carried out the polls? What were the questions posed? And even if the above were true, so what? Newspapers and opinion polls once vigorously supported and then completely turned around on the Vietnam War and so many other issues.? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- SS SAYS: "One more whale hunt will be devastating for tourism in northwest Washington state," said SSCS International Director Lisa Distefano. "This is a region dependent on sport fishing, whale watching and tourism, and those industries start suffering major damage from one more year of this slaughter." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Response to SS: Here they quote SSCS (Sea Shepherd Conservation Society) Director Lis Distefano's self-interested OPINION as "EVIDENCE" that the case has been made of a causal relationship between the Makah Whale Hunt and loss of tourism in general; they make the leap from a causal relationship between the Makah Whale Hunt and loss of whale watching tourism and then theh next leap in logic and lack of evidence to losses of sport fishing and general tourism supposedly caused by the Makah Whale Hunt. Indeed although there are some common determinants of supply and demand for all forms of tourism, there are also unique determinants governing supply and demand for specific forms of tourism such that this grotesque leap of logic simply cannot be sustained by any reasonable person. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- SS SAYS: "We strongly suggest that the business leaders of the affected communities get in touch with their state representatives and tell them they're not going to take 'it's out of our jurisdiction' as an excuse any more. The state needs to seek relief from the tragic policies and actions of the federal government that are perpetuating this blood sacrifice in U.S. waters." Although there is a whale-hunting clause in the Makah's 1855 treaty with the United States, Sea Shepherd and many other environmental organizations have pointed out that the U.S.-sanctioned hunt can in fact only be authorized by the International Whaling Commission. The IWC has refused to recognize any subsistence need on the part of the Makah to hunt whales. The U.S. government, in attempting to honor its obligation to the Makah treaty, is thus violating its obligation to uphold the Convention of the IWC, to which it is signatory. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Response to SS: Here is where we get to see the naked racism of the Sea Racists so clearly. Supposedly the US is to "honor" its Treaty obligations when referring to the IWC Convention, but not when it comes to the 1855 Treaty with the Makah. Further Nations do not make Treaties with individuals or even groups of their own citizens--only with sovereign nations. The US Government has no right under International Law, Common Law of Nations, the Vienna Convention of indeed under Article VI Sec 2 of the U.S. Constitution to sign a convention in the name of or binding another sovereign nation especially when that would summarily abrogate another and preexisting Treaty with another Sovereign Nation. Here the SS arrogates to determine what forms of life are worthy of protection and what peoples and cultures are not. The Makah and other Indian Peoples and Cultures are far closer to extinction than any Gray Whales. Further, as the Makah have signed and have honored (far beyond honoring) the terms of the 1855 Treaty, no one can enforce new terms on an old Treaty without their consent. That is what sovereignty and internationa law on treaties is all about. Here just as the SS arrogates to define what life forms and cultures are worth protecting and not protecting, so they arrogant to summarily declare what Treaties are worth honoring and what are not worth honoring. Their naked racism is naked. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- SS SAYS: The Sea Shepherd Conservation Society successfully deployed its ships and small craft to curtail hunting efforts in Neah Bay for several months in 1998, and has proposed Congressional legislation to return a portion of former Makah lands to the tribe in exchange for an amendment of the whaling clause in the treaty that ceded the land to the United States in 1855. The Sea Shepherd proposal is available on the World Wide Web at ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Response to the SS: How many of these SS have even talked with the Makah Tribal Council? How many of them have even been to the Makah Reservation? In any case, the SS cannot "propose" Congressional Legislation--only one of their bought (bought from donations to the SS or from monies from the known anti-Indian and anti-Treaty racists and anti-Semites/Holocaust revisionists nominally supporting the SS) legislators can do that. In any case what they are proposing is more legislation to summarily abrogate an existing Treaty and impose some new terms without any concern for how the Makah might feel about that. This is why they are properly called racists; that is what racism is all about: "We will define "life worthy of life" (Hitler loved dogs); We will define what cultures and what Treaties are worth protecting and honoring. How about if the Government of China tells the US what existing treaties it will honor and what it will not? How about if the Government of China tells the U.S. what animal or plant forms it may kill and harvest for food and culture and what forms it may not? How about if the Government of China tells the U.S. what amendments to existing Treaties it declares and what the US must in turn accept? These SS are nothing new; their hubris, duplicity, lack of command of elementary reasoning, intentions and their hidden agenda are quite like the SS of some 66 years ago in Germany--genocide and white privilege under the banners of various self-defined "sacred" causes. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim Craven Reprinted under the Fair Use http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.html doctrine of international copyright law. &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& Tsonkwadiyonrat (We are ONE Spirit) Unenh onhwa' Awayaton http://www.tdi.net/ishgooda/ UPDATES: CAMP JUSTICE http://shell.webbernet.net/~ishgooda/oglala/ &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&