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Today's Topics:
1. the delicate line [u] (Geert Lovink [c])
2. Re: the delicate line [u] (shu lea cheang)
3. sexworkeurope (miriam tola)
4. As we start a netporn taxonomy... (Adam Zaretsky)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 15:18:16 +0200
From: "Geert Lovink [c]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Netporn-l] the delicate line [u]
To: Netporn-l@listcultures.org
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Dear speakers and participants,
here in Amsterdam we're getting really excited about the upcoming
event.
The Institute of Network is still in a state of aftershock from the
last conference, which ended Saturdaynight with a great party. The
topic was urban screens (www.urbanscreens.org).
The program booklet is at the printers. Everyone has confirmed and is
preparing. Some dropped out, others came in, as it goes with every
event.
There are a few things I would like to say, as the person who is
directly responsible for the netporn event.
Remember, we're really amongst ourselves in this event. There are no
sponsors or higher authorities that we need to take into account. We
put in subsidy and sponsorship requests but even here in the
Netherlands no one wanted to be associated with such an event as ours.
This also meant that we, as the host, could not pay that many travel
tickets, nice hotels, a fancy venue, etc.
OK, we're in Amsterdam and nothing is as difficult as shaping an event
in a situation of 'near' freedom. You can easily spoil it, let it go,
waste it. Smoke a join and be stoned all day. We here call that
simply
boring. This is what young tourists do during their first visit to
Amsterdam. That's not freedom, it is just a pitty of the wasted time.
So please take into account that there is indeed free speech, no
censorship when it comes to showing images (unlike at so many other
conferences). Having said that, it is a high art not to respond to
this
challenge in an adolescent manner. If people behave in a silly manner,
we'll really not appreciate this. It's a fine line and I guess you
will
all respect this. Having said that. we would really like to challenge
you to show whatever REALLY interests you. Do not feel limited or
think
you first need to check with us, etc.
What I really wanna stress to you all is to dig as deep as you can
into
the netporn phenomena. Do not hesitate and go for it. But please
remember that we're not dealing with the static and linear media such
as print, video and film. We would love to stress the peer to peer,
distributed aspect of contemporary porn. That's where the radical
imaginary energies should be focussed upon.
See you soon!
Geert
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 16:50:40 +0100
From: shu lea cheang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Netporn-l] the delicate line [u]
To: Netporn-l@listcultures.org
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not so sure how to read this message, geert.
is it a bait? is this a round up?
by digging as deep as you can, is there hint on this?
being p2p, distributed, how deep do you want us to go?
hmmmmmmmm, taste of juicy fig is tempting
sl
Dear speakers and participants,
here in Amsterdam we're getting really excited about the upcoming
event.
The Institute of Network is still in a state of aftershock from the
last conference, which ended Saturdaynight with a great party. The
topic was urban screens (www.urbanscreens.org).
The program booklet is at the printers. Everyone has confirmed and
is preparing. Some dropped out, others came in, as it goes with
every event.
There are a few things I would like to say, as the person who is
directly responsible for the netporn event.
Remember, we're really amongst ourselves in this event. There are no
sponsors or higher authorities that we need to take into account. We
put in subsidy and sponsorship requests but even here in the
Netherlands no one wanted to be associated with such an event as
ours. This also meant that we, as the host, could not pay that many
travel tickets, nice hotels, a fancy venue, etc.
OK, we're in Amsterdam and nothing is as difficult as shaping an
event in a situation of 'near' freedom. You can easily spoil it, let
it go, waste it. Smoke a join and be stoned all day. We here call
that simply boring. This is what young tourists do during their
first visit to Amsterdam. That's not freedom, it is just a pitty of
the wasted time.
So please take into account that there is indeed free speech, no
censorship when it comes to showing images (unlike at so many other
conferences). Having said that, it is a high art not to respond to
this challenge in an adolescent manner. If people behave in a silly
manner, we'll really not appreciate this. It's a fine line and I
guess you will all respect this. Having said that. we would really
like to challenge you to show whatever REALLY interests you. Do not
feel limited or think you first need to check with us, etc.
What I really wanna stress to you all is to dig as deep as you can
into the netporn phenomena. Do not hesitate and go for it. But
please remember that we're not dealing with the static and linear
media such as print, video and film. We would love to stress the
peer to peer, distributed aspect of contemporary porn. That's where
the radical imaginary energies should be focussed upon.
See you soon!
Geert
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 17:02:12 -0400
From: miriam tola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Netporn-l] sexworkeurope
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Hi,
maybe some of you are interested in the Sex Workers European
Conference,
Brussels, october 15-17 2005: http://www.sexworkeurope.org
miriam
www.thething.it
www.amatrix.it
www.tekfestival.it
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 18:36:36 -0400
From: Adam Zaretsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Netporn-l] As we start a netporn taxonomy...
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What sort of what is this?
http://www.bodyweaver.com/pics/gallery/ourphoto40.htm
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