As a one-time theoretical physicist, I find this quote from Gosden to be  
out-dated, overly reductive, and incorrect, at least as far as the most 
thoughtful scientists go. 

Scientific understanding doesn’t “derive from abstraction,” but rather the 
other way round. It doesn’t separate humans from the world , but rather 
emphasizes our total embededness in it. It is no coincidence that almost all 
aspects of the current environmental movement, whether against the destruction 
of species , the concerns about global warming, the dire effects of plastics, 
etc.,  come from scientific observations. Nor is it  any coincidence that 
scientists for the most part are instigators and fervent supporters of that 
movement. 

Darwin, after all, is generally considered a scientist, yet the most basic and 
originally shocking point of evolutionary theory is that we are related to all 
other living things.  Ethologists constantly emphasize how close we are in 
behavior to other animals , etc., etc., etc. And, by the way, since Einstein 
physicists have agreed that matter and energy are the same.

Best,

Michael



> On Dec 8, 2021, at 2:15 PM, mp <m...@aktivix.org> wrote:
> Scientific understanding
> derives from abstraction, through the quantification of matter, energy
> and force by means of mathematics, but also through logical reasoning
> from elementary starting points, such as Newton’s Laws, towards the true
> profusion of the world. Science separates people from the world, whereas
> magic immerses us in it, raising also questions of our moral
> relationship with the universe in a way that science does not..." (2020: 8).

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