Hi Garret 

Sorry for the late reply,  have used www-data for the permissions 


root@flows:/data/netflow-data/profiles-data# ls -la
total 20
drwxrwxr-x 5 www-data www-data 4096 Aug  7 21:34 .
drwxr-xr-x 9 www-data www-data 4096 Aug  7 16:13 ..
drwxrwxr-x 4 www-data www-data 4096 Aug  7 16:14 live
drwxrwxr-x 3 www-data www-data 4096 Aug  7 21:40 lyndonteracojhb_gp
drwxrwxr-x 6 www-data www-data 4096 Aug  7 21:40 mtdbnc1_kzn
root@flows:/data/netflow-data/profiles-data# ls -la /usr/bin/nf*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 www-data www-data 113632 Aug  7 19:48 /usr/bin/nfanon
-rwxr-xr-x 1 www-data www-data 645752 Aug  7 19:48 /usr/bin/nfcapd
-rwxr-xr-x 1 www-data www-data 364128 Aug  7 19:48 /usr/bin/nfdump
-rwxr-xr-x 1 www-data www-data 127304 Aug  7 19:48 /usr/bin/nfexpire
-rwxr-xr-x 1 www-data www-data 138784 Aug  7 19:48 /usr/bin/nfprofile
-rwxr-xr-x 1 www-data www-data 514640 Aug  7 19:48 /usr/bin/nfreplay
-rwxr-xr-x 1 www-data www-data 111880 Aug  7 19:48 /usr/bin/nftrack
root@flows:/data/netflow-data/profiles-data# 

new files under the live directory are reared with the below permissions 

-rw-r--r-- 1 www-data www-data 13519 Aug  8 06:40 nfcapd.201608080635
-rw-r--r-- 1 www-data www-data   276 Aug  8 06:40 nfcapd.current.28699

nothing is created under the other profiles 


> On 07 Aug 2016, at 22:00, Garrett Burke <gbu...@egenera.com> wrote:
> 
> Which user is nfcapd running as?
> 
> My config has nfcapd running as user Netflow.
> 
> drwxrwxr-x  5 netflow apache 4096 Jun 22 07:30 live
> drwxrwxr-x  8 netflow apache 4096 Jun  2 15:44 PARTNER1
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lyndon Labuschagne [mailto:lynd...@mobiletorque.co.za] 
> Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2016 8:57 PM
> To: Garrett Burke <gbu...@egenera.com>
> Subject: Re: [Nfsen-discuss] Error reading channel stat information. Missing 
> key 'first'
> 
> I have tried differing permissions but the user and group is www-data the 
> apache user 
> 
> no errors regarding permissions that I can see 
> 
> 
>> On 07 Aug 2016, at 21:52, Garrett Burke <gbu...@egenera.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Are the permissions correct on the other profile directory?  Check the logs 
>> that it's not readable.  I've seen an issue where you need to set the group 
>> to allow the hierarchy to be traversed.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Lyndon Labuschagne [mailto:lynd...@mobiletorque.co.za]
>> Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2016 8:49 PM
>> To: Garrett Burke <gbu...@egenera.com>
>> Cc: nfsen-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net
>> Subject: Re: [Nfsen-discuss] Error reading channel stat information. Missing 
>> key 'first'
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> Yes they have been committed and the the status is ok
>> 
>> 
>> with more digging around I see that the nfcapd.YYYYMMDDHHMM files are only 
>> created under the live profile and not under the other profiles # 
>> name lyndonteracojhb_gp
>> group        (nogroup)
>> tcreate      Sun Aug  7 21:34:19 2016
>> tstart       Sun Aug  7 21:47:18 2016
>> tend Sun Aug  7 21:47:18 2016
>> updated      Sun Aug  7 21:47:18 2016
>> expire       60 days 0 hours
>> size 0
>> maxsize      10.0 GB
>> type continuous
>> locked       0
>> status       OK
>> version      130
>> channel lyndonteracojhb_gp   sign: + colour: #0099FF order: 1        
>> sourcelist: lyndonteracojhb_gp  ERR Error reading channel stat information. 
>> Missing key 'first'
>>      Files: 0        Size: 0 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 07 Aug 2016, at 21:44, Garrett Burke <gbu...@egenera.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Lyndon,
>>> 
>>> Did you commit the new profile?
>>> 
>>> GB
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Lyndon Labuschagne [mailto:lynd...@mobiletorque.co.za]
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2016 7:24 PM
>>> To: nfsen-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfsen-discuss] Error reading channel stat information. 
>>> Missing key 'first'
>>> 
>>> OK went one further scraped the VM
>>> clean install of Ubuntu 16.04
>>> Running nfsen (1.3.7) and the latest nfdump from github
>>> 
>>> rrdtool 1.5.5
>>> and still the same issue, RRDs are only generated on the live profile
>>> 
>>> any advise would be much appreciated
>>> 
>>>> On 07 Aug 2016, at 13:00, Lyndon Labuschagne <lynd...@mobiletorque.co.za> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi All
>>>> 
>>>> I really hope someone can assist
>>>> 
>>>> It seems a few people have run into this issue, and the resolution 
>>>> seems to be related to either a change in rrdtool (upgrade or
>>>> downgrade) or having meaningful expiry information
>>>> 
>>>> I have tried this on Ubuntu 16 and 14, rrdtool 1.5.5 rrdtool 1.5.6 
>>>> and now rrdtool 1.4.7
>>>> 
>>>> This is the error i get
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: Update profile mtdbnc1_kzn in 
>>>> group Routers Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: Error reading channel 
>>>> stat information. Missing key 'first'
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: message repeated 3 times: [ Error 
>>>> reading channel stat information. Missing key 'first']
>>>> 
>>>> the Live profile works fine, I have created a Routers profile and set the 
>>>> expiry to 5 G / 30 Days. 
>>>> The Routers profile is Continous Profile individual channels, and a 
>>>> Real Profile
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Here is a log extract
>>>> 
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:00 flows nfcapd[1577]: Ident: 'lyndonteracojhb_gp' Flows: 
>>>> 750, Packets: 52492, Bytes: 72559620, Sequence Errors: 0, Bad Packets: 
>>>> 0 Aug  7 12:55:00 flows nfcapd[1577]: Ident: 'mtdbnc1_kzn' Flows: 
>>>> 27930, Packets: 248372, Bytes: 64251361, Sequence Errors: 0, Bad
>>>> Packets: 0 Aug  7 12:55:00 flows nfcapd[1577]: Total ignored packets: 
>>>> 0 Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2467]: connection on UNIX socket Aug  
>>>> 7
>>>> 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2467]: comm server started: 20929 Aug  7
>>>> 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20929]: Cmd Decode: signal Aug  7 12:55:15 flows 
>>>> nfsen[20929]: Cmd Decode: quit Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2466]: Signal 
>>>> 'start-periodic'
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2466]: Run periodic at Sun Aug  7
>>>> 12:55:00
>>>> 2016 Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2466]: Prepare profiling './live'
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2466]: Prepare profiling 'Routers/mtdbnc1_kzn'
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2466]: 4 channels/alerts to profile Aug
>>>> 7
>>>> 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2466]: Limit profilers: 4 Aug  7 12:55:15 flows
>>>> nfsen[2467]: comm child[20929] terminated with no exit value Aug  7
>>>> 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20932]: profile opts: 
>>>> Routers#mtdbnc1_kzn#2#www#mtdbnc1_kzn for profiler 1 Aug  7 12:55:15 
>>>> flows nfsen[20930]: profile opts:
>>>> Routers#mtdbnc1_kzn#2#https#mtdbnc1_kzn for profiler 0 Aug  7
>>>> 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20930]: profiler 0 started Aug  7 12:55:15 
>>>> flows
>>>> nfsen[20932]: profiler 1 started Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20934]: 
>>>> profile opts: Routers#mtdbnc1_kzn#2#ftp#mtdbnc1_kzn for profiler 2 
>>>> Aug
>>>> 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20934]: profiler 2 started Aug  7 12:55:15 
>>>> flows nfsen[20930]: profiler 0 finished Aug  7 12:55:15 flows
>>>> nfsen[20932]: profiler 1 finished Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20934]: 
>>>> profiler 2 finished Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20936]: profile opts: 
>>>> Routers#mtdbnc1_kzn#2#dns#mtdbnc1_kzn for profiler 3 Aug  7 12:55:15 
>>>> flows nfsen[20936]: profiler 3 started Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20936]: 
>>>> profiler 3 finished Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2466]: Update profile live 
>>>> in group .
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2466]: Add channel size 86016 Aug  7
>>>> 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2466]: Add channel size 1257472 Aug  7 12:55:15 
>>>> flows nfsen[2466]: Set new profile size: 1343488 Aug  7 12:55:15 
>>>> flows
>>>> nfsen[2466]: Add .:live:201608071250 for plugin processing Aug  7
>>>> 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2467]: connection on UNIX socket Aug  7 
>>>> 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2467]: comm server started: 20940 Aug  7 
>>>> 12:55:15 flows
>>>> nfsen[20940]: Cmd Decode: signal Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20940]: 
>>>> Cmd Decode: quit Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2467]: comm 
>>>> child[20940] terminated with no exit value Aug  7 12:55:15 flows 
>>>> nfsen[1868]:
>>>> Signal 'start-periodic'
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: Run periodic at Sun Aug  7
>>>> 12:55:00
>>>> 2016 Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: Prepare profiling './live'
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: Prepare profiling 'Routers/mtdbnc1_kzn'
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: 4 channels/alerts to profile Aug
>>>> 7
>>>> 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: Limit profilers: 4 Aug  7 12:55:15 flows
>>>> nfsen[2467]: connection on UNIX socket Aug  7 12:55:15 flows
>>>> nfsen[2467]: comm server started: 20946 Aug  7 12:55:15 flows
>>>> nfsen[20946]: Cmd Decode: signal Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20946]: 
>>>> Cmd Decode: quit Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2233]: Signal 
>>>> 'start-periodic'
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2233]: Run periodic at Sun Aug  7
>>>> 12:55:00
>>>> 2016 Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20941]: profile opts: 
>>>> Routers#mtdbnc1_kzn#2#dns#mtdbnc1_kzn for profiler 0 Aug  7 12:55:15 
>>>> flows nfsen[20941]: profiler 0 started Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2233]: 
>>>> Prepare profiling './live'
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20945]: profile opts: 
>>>> Routers#mtdbnc1_kzn#2#ftp#mtdbnc1_kzn for profiler 2 Aug  7 12:55:15 
>>>> flows nfsen[20945]: profiler 2 started Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2233]: 
>>>> Prepare profiling 'Routers/mtdbnc1_kzn'
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20941]: profiler 0 finished Aug  7
>>>> 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2233]: 4 channels/alerts to profile Aug  7
>>>> 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2233]: Limit profilers: 4 Aug  7 12:55:15 flows
>>>> nfsen[20945]: profiler 2 finished Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20948]: 
>>>> profile opts: Routers#mtdbnc1_kzn#2#www#mtdbnc1_kzn for profiler 3 
>>>> Aug
>>>> 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20948]: profiler 3 started Aug  7 12:55:15 
>>>> flows nfsen[2467]: comm child[20946] terminated with no exit value 
>>>> Aug
>>>> 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20943]: nfsend: exit child[20944] Exit: 255,
>>>> Signal: 0, Core: 0 Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20943]: profile opts: 
>>>> Routers#mtdbnc1_kzn#2#https#mtdbnc1_kzn for profiler 1 Aug  7
>>>> 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20943]: profiler 1 started Aug  7 12:55:15 
>>>> flows
>>>> nfsen[1868]: nfsend: exit child[20943] Exit: 0, Signal: 13, Core: 0 
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20948]: profiler 3 finished Aug  7
>>>> 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20952]: profile opts: 
>>>> Routers#mtdbnc1_kzn#2#https#mtdbnc1_kzn for profiler 1 Aug  7
>>>> 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20955]: profile opts:
>>>> Routers#mtdbnc1_kzn#2#www#mtdbnc1_kzn for profiler 3 Aug  7 12:55:15 
>>>> flows nfsen[20952]: profiler 1 started Aug  7 12:55:15 flows
>>>> nfsen[20950]: profile opts: Routers#mtdbnc1_kzn#2#dns#mtdbnc1_kzn 
>>>> for profiler 0 Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20950]: profiler 0 
>>>> started Aug
>>>> 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20955]: nfsend: exit child[20956] Exit: 255,
>>>> Signal: 0, Core: 0 Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20955]: profiler 3 
>>>> started Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20953]: profile opts:
>>>> Routers#mtdbnc1_kzn#2#ftp#mtdbnc1_kzn for profiler 2 Aug  7 12:55:15 
>>>> flows nfsen[20953]: profiler 2 started Aug  7 12:55:15 flows
>>>> nfsen[20952]: profiler 1 finished Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2233]: 
>>>> nfsend: exit child[20955] Exit: 0, Signal: 13, Core: 0 Aug  7 12:55:15 
>>>> flows nfsen[20950]: profiler 0 finished Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: 
>>>> Update profile mtdbnc1_kzn in group Routers Aug  7 12:55:15 flows 
>>>> nfsen[1868]: Error reading channel stat information. Missing key 'first'
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: message repeated 3 times: [ Error 
>>>> reading channel stat information. Missing key 'first'] Aug  7
>>>> 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: Set new profile size: 0 Aug  7 12:55:15 
>>>> flows
>>>> nfsen[1868]: Add Routers:mtdbnc1_kzn:201608071250 for plugin 
>>>> processing Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20953]: profiler 2 finished 
>>>> Aug
>>>> 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2233]: Run plugins for 201608071250 Aug  7 12:55:15 
>>>> flows nfsen[2233]: Run plugins done.
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2233]: Check alerts for Sun Aug  7
>>>> 12:50:00 2016 Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2233]: Check alerts done.
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2233]: Run expire at Sun Aug  7 12:55:00
>>>> 2016 Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2233]: End expire at Sun Aug  7
>>>> 12:55:00 2016 Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2467]: connection on UNIX 
>>>> socket Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2467]: comm server started: 20958 
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20958]: Cmd Decode: signal Aug  7
>>>> 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20958]: Cmd Decode: quit Aug  7 12:55:15 flows
>>>> nfsen[20958]: Cleanup Routine Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2233]: 
>>>> Signal 'end-periodic'
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2467]: comm child[20958] terminated with 
>>>> no exit value Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2466]: Run plugins for
>>>> 201608071250 Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2467]: connection on UNIX 
>>>> socket Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2467]: comm server started: 20959 
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20959]: Cmd Decode: run-plugins Aug  7
>>>> 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20959]: Plugin Cycle: ., live, 201608071250 Aug
>>>> 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20959]: Cmd Decode: quit Aug  7 12:55:15 
>>>> flows
>>>> nfsen[2466]: Run plugins done.
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2466]: Check alerts for Sun Aug  7
>>>> 12:50:00 2016 Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2466]: Check alerts done.
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2466]: Run expire at Sun Aug  7 12:55:00
>>>> 2016 Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2466]: Expire profile live group . low 
>>>> water mark: 90%%
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2466]: nfexpire: Expired files:      0
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2466]: nfexpire: Expired file size:  0 B 
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2466]: nfexpire: Expired time range: 0 
>>>> sec Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2466]: nfexpire:
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2466]: End expire at Sun Aug  7 12:55:00
>>>> 2016 Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2467]: connection on UNIX socket 
>>>> Aug
>>>> 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2467]: comm server started: 20961 Aug  7
>>>> 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2467]: comm child[20959] terminated with no 
>>>> exit value Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20961]: Cmd Decode: signal 
>>>> Aug  7
>>>> 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20961]: Cmd Decode: quit Aug  7 12:55:15 flows
>>>> nfsen[20961]: Cleanup Routine Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2466]: 
>>>> Signal 'end-periodic'
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2467]: comm child[20961] terminated with 
>>>> no exit value Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: Run plugins for
>>>> 201608071250 Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2467]: connection on UNIX 
>>>> socket Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2467]: comm server started: 20962 
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20962]: Cmd Decode: run-plugins Aug  7
>>>> 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20962]: Plugin Cycle: Routers, mtdbnc1_kzn,
>>>> 201608071250 Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20962]: Cmd Decode: quit 
>>>> Aug
>>>> 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: Run plugins done.
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: Check alerts for Sun Aug  7
>>>> 12:50:00 2016 Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: Check alerts done.
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: Run expire at Sun Aug  7 12:55:00
>>>> 2016 Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: Expire profile live group . 
>>>> low water mark: 90%% Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2467]: comm child[20962] 
>>>> terminated with no exit value
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: nfexpire: Expired files:      0
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: nfexpire: Expired file size:  0 B 
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: nfexpire: Expired time range: 0 
>>>> sec Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: nfexpire:
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: Expire profile mtdbnc1_kzn group 
>>>> Routers low water mark: 90%% Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]:
>>>> nfexpire: Force rebuild requested by stat record in 
>>>> /data/netflow-data/profiles-data/Routers/mtdbnc1_kzn/dns
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: nfexpire: Force rebuild requested 
>>>> by stat record in 
>>>> /data/netflow-data/profiles-data/Routers/mtdbnc1_kzn/https
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: nfexpire: Force rebuild requested 
>>>> by stat record in 
>>>> /data/netflow-data/profiles-data/Routers/mtdbnc1_kzn/www
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: nfexpire: Force rebuild requested 
>>>> by stat record in 
>>>> /data/netflow-data/profiles-data/Routers/mtdbnc1_kzn/ftp
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: nfexpire: Scanning files in 
>>>> /data/netflow-data/profiles-data/Routers/mtdbnc1_kzn/dns .. done.
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: nfexpire: Scanning files in 
>>>> /data/netflow-data/profiles-data/Routers/mtdbnc1_kzn/https .. done.
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: nfexpire: Scanning files in 
>>>> /data/netflow-data/profiles-data/Routers/mtdbnc1_kzn/www .. done.
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: nfexpire: Scanning files in 
>>>> /data/netflow-data/profiles-data/Routers/mtdbnc1_kzn/ftp .. done.
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: nfexpire: Expired files:      0
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: nfexpire: Expired file size:  0 B 
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: nfexpire: Expired time range: 0 
>>>> sec Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: nfexpire:
>>>> Aug  7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: End expire at Sun Aug  7 12:55:00
>>>> 2016
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