Derek Lofthouse recently wrote:
A question I forgot to ask though, are these 2 tunes played much?
Hello Derek
The tunes are popular in some circles and have been for some time. I
remember Chuck Fleming leading us all with 'Peacock Followed ..' in the
pub at Kathryn's (Tickell) 21st birthday party yelling "do it again"
after each time through with words to the effect that it was a very
enjoyable tune, the best Northumbrian one he'd come across (but not so
politely put). We played it 10 or 12 times - it might have even been
more.
More recently I taught the same tune by ear to 150 youngsters at The
Youth Summer School in Durham (Folkworks) with the words:
Won't you come cuddle me, cuddy
Now won't you come cuddle me reet
Won't you come cuddle me, cuddy
Just as ye did yesterday neet ..
As for 'Small Coals..' it was also popular with the same age group and
I did some 2nds for the nimble-fingered to do. I've got it as a
pdf which I can send down the wires to anyone interested.
Best wishes
Anthony
From: DEREK LOFTHOUSE <dloftho...@shaw.ca>
To: Matt Seattle <theborderpi...@googlemail.com>
Cc: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Wednesday, 15 August 2012, 14:14
Subject: [NSP] Re: small coals, and the peacock following the hen
Thanks Matt, Anthony, John and Kevin for your thoughts on these tunes.
I will try the ideas you guys have suggested and I guess go with what
works best for me.
I guess it a matter of what you are used to, when i play border pipes I
have no problem with 'discordant' drones, ex. playing in Bm with A
drones, but i am used to just playing mainly G and D tunes (with the
occassional venture into A and E)on the NSP with the appropriate
drones. I'll and do more of it and maybe it will start sounding better
to me.
A question I forgot to ask though, are these 2 tunes played much?
thanks again
Derek
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From: "Matt Seattle" <[1]theborderpi...@googlemail.com>
To: [2]nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 4:27:50 AM
Subject: [NSP] Re: small coals, and the peacock following the hen
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 12:26 AM, Anthony Robb
<[1][3]anth...@robbpipes.com> wrote:
Here is what Forster Charlton, Colin Ross and Roland Wright put
in the
introduction to the second edition to the NPS 1st Tune Book:
"Small Coals and Little Money and Cuckold Come Out The Amrey
are
in an
unusual mode for which the drones should be tuned to the notes
A
and E.
Any drone which will not tune to either of these two notes is
best shut
off!"
Personally, I agree - others don't.
Where I disagree is in saying they are in the same mode. Small Coals
is
a straightforward A minor tune, although with no 6th (F#) it's
neither
dorian nor aeolian mode. There is a case for tuning the drones to A
for
Small Coals if you insist on the drones being concordant with the
home
key or mode of the tune. I don't personally find that an issue, and
neither do other bagpipe traditions, where drones are what drones
were
meant to be - fixed, so that tunes in different modes sound like they
are in different modes.
For me, Cuckold is a mixed-mode tune with alternating A minor and C
major strains, where A drones have the effect of masking the C major
sections because, over A drones, these also sound like A minor. So,
if
I were an NSP player, I'd leave the drones in G for this tune, which
I
am well aware is heresy.
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