On 4/22/2024 2:45 AM, Joel via ntg-context wrote:
I'm three days out from sending my work to an editor, and found some
serious problem: many footnotes just aren't rendering.
I have a history text that uses ConTeXt-SBL for the citations, as such,
it has lots of footnotes. Sometimes the footnotes are just in the main
text, but sometimes also in figure captions, inside floats, inside
tables that are inside floats, inside tabulations inside floats, etc.
What I find alarming is it is frequently not rendering all of the
footnote messages at the bottom of the page. The actual footnote number
within the body is rendered, but no number is listed in at the bottom of
the page. So I might see a list of footnotes, for instance, on page 1, I
only get footnotes 1, 2, 3, 5, and 6, but 4 was mysteriously skipped.
---------------
1 message
2 message
3 message
5 message
6 message
After a lot of trial-and-error and checking logs and checking my BibTeX
files for errors, running everything through BibTex Tidy, etc., and
failures to make a minimum working example, I found a single pattern:
If the footnote marker appears on the SAME page as the footnote text, it
has no problem rendering the footnote. But, if ConTeXt decides to move a
float a page or two later on--as it frequently seems to do---such that
the footnote marker and footnote text at bottom of page should be on
DIFFERENT pages, the footnote message at the bottom of the page won't
render.
I've seen some 2+ year old mailing list posts suggesting ConTeXt might
have issues with footnotes; they appear to be similar to my issue--is
that still a problem? Is there a fix or workaround? Old fixes I could
finding in the mailing list don't seem to work with current versions of
ConTeXt anymore.
you need to consider the complications of such notes ...
- tex needs to take the notes into account when determining a page break
- it does so by the insert mechanism
- when floats can't be placed they also become inserts (top and bottom)
- when there are inserts in inserts th eproblem becomes more complex (so
notes inside floats)
- in traditional tex deeply burried inserts disappearm less so in lmtx
There are things that are hard to get right. This works:
\startpostponing
\startplacefigure[location=here,title={test \footnote{oeps 1}}]
\blackrule[width=1tw]
here
\footnote{hello 1} and
\footnote{hello 2} and
\footnote{hello 3} done
\stopplacefigure
\stoppostponing
\dorecurse{10}{\samplefile{tufte}\par}
Because here the inserts (notes) will migrate but even then one can get
them out of order (unless we renumber, which then is sensitiev for
oscillation).
I occasionally wonder if top floats could be done more directly but
bottom notes still would have an out-of-sync problem
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