On 7/8/2022 9:40 AM, Max Chernoff via ntg-context wrote:
This is because you need to pass a list that conforms to what the builder expects and the callback that you use doesn't do that for you (after all, it also gets hbox content).

Isn't "processors/after" the same as "pre_linebreak_filter"? I thought that only "hpack_filter" gets \hbox content? Anyways, my actual function has this guard at the very start:

    if (head.id ~= par_id and context) or -- Ensure that we were actually given a par
         status.output_active or -- Don't run during the output routine
         tex.nest.ptr > 1 -- Don't run inside boxes
     then
         return head
     end

so I think that I'm only processing actual top-level paragraphs here.

There is no 'callback sequence handler' for the par builder (currently i see no need for it, also given the extra overhead involved) but this what what you can do:

\startluacode
     function builders.paragraphs.constructors.methods.preroll_a(head)
         local result, info = tex.linebreak(head)
         tex.prevdepth = info.prevdepth
         tex.prevgraf = info.prevgraf
         return result
     end
     function builders.paragraphs.constructors.methods.preroll_b(head)
         local result, info = tex.linebreak(nodes.nuts.copylist(head))
         inspect(info)
         return true
     end
\stopluacode

\defineparbuilder[preroll_a]
\defineparbuilder[preroll_b]

\starttext
     \setmainparbuilder[default]   \input tufte \par \input tufte \page
     \setmainparbuilder[preroll_a] \input tufte \par \input tufte \page
     \setmainparbuilder[preroll_b] \input tufte \par \input tufte \page
\stoptext

I think that that code is for replacing the linebreaker entirely, like with using "linebreak_filter"? My goal isn't to replace the linebreaker; I just want to be able to inspect the paragraph before it is broken, without modifying anything.

as long as you return true the built in will do the work but you can still do the preroll so basically nothing gets replaced .. it's just a more natural hook;l keep in mind that if someone replaces the linebreak your code woudl fail to do its work anyway

What I'm trying to do *very* roughly looks like the following:

     paragraphs = {}
     attribute = 1234

     function pre_linebreak_filter(head)
         if head.id ~= node.id"par" then
             return head
         end

         local nat_node, nat_info = tex.linebreak(node.copylist(head))
         node.freelist(nat_node)

         local long_node, long_info = tex.linebreak(
             node.copylist(head), {looseness = 1}
         )

         if long_info.prevgraf == nat_info.prevgraf + 1 then
             table.insert(paragraphs, long_node)
         end

         return head
     end

     function post_linebreak_filter(head)
         node.setattribute(head, attribute, #paragraphs)
         node.setattribute(node.slide(head), attribute, #paragraphs)

         return head
     end

     function pre_output_filter(head)
         if tex.outputpenalty ~= tex.widowpenalty then
             return head
         end

         -- Pick a paragraph from `paragraphs` somehow

         -- Replace that paragraph on the page with the one
         -- from `paragraphs`

         -- Move the last line of the page onto the top of
         -- tex.lists.contributehead

         return head
     end

(The full implementation is in the module "lua-widow-control" on CTAN, TeX Live, and modules.contextgarden.net, or directly at "https://github.com/gucci-on-fleek/lua-widow-control/blob/master/source/lua-widow-control.lua";. It's pretty long though, so I'm just trying to summarize here.)

This works pretty well with Plain LuaTeX, LuaLaTeX, OpTeX, MkIV, and MkXL before the latest upload, but something broke with the latest upload in MkXL. I understand that I'm mucking around with volatile interfaces, and I have no problem making a bunch of changes whenever the engine/format changes; the problem is that I'm not too sure what changed in the engine, so I don't know what I need to change in my code.

the tricky part is probably to make sure that it doesn't interfere with what other functions hooked into the callbacks are doing because who knows what gets injected in those lists

On the to do is a to add a 'prepare' helper that adds the mandate nodes (par fillers etc)

Maybe that's all that I need? If that's the case, I have no problem coding my own "prepare helper" if you think that it'll be awhile before you get around to it; the problem is that I'm not entirely sure what nodes I would need to add. These new nodes aren't added until after "pre_linebreak_filter", and they're gone after the linebreaker runs, so I can't inspect a "regular" paragraph to see where these nodes belong.

there will be (untested on what you do)

  tex.preparelinebreak(par)

that will add the additional stuff needed (and bark if something is there already).

btw, a par builder - even in luatex - needs a parfillskip to properly do its work, some penalty and in the case of context lmtx also a leftparfill skip and optionally initleft and right skip
 Hans


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