On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 17:39 (+0100), Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

> Jim schrieb am 15.01.2024 um 01:42:
>> I have

>> \setupwhitespace [big]

>> so that I get "a blank line" between paragraphs.

>> I would like to *not* have "blank lines" before and after my items.  For
>> example, if there is more "paragraph text" after the last item I would like
>> to see this structure:

>> ------------------------------------------------------------------

>> Some text preceding the list of items:
>> a. Item one.
>> b. Second item.
>> This sentence is part of the same paragraph.

>> The next paragraph starts here...

>> ------------------------------------------------------------------

>> and if there is no "paragraph text" after the last item, I'd like to see
>> this structure:

>> ------------------------------------------------------------------

>> Some text preceding the list of items:
>> a. Item one.
>> b. Second item.

>> The next paragraph starts here...

>> ------------------------------------------------------------------

>> Try as I might, I can't find the right options to give to \startitemize.

>> The closest I have found is to start with
>> \startitemize[a,nowhite]
>> but that prevents the "blank line" even in the second case above, which is
>> not what I want.  Further, 'packed' and 'joinedup' seem to behave
>> identically here, both leaving "a blank line" before the first item and
>> after the last item.

>> Clearly, I can force a blank line before the following paragraph with a
>> \vskip<the right amount>, but that seems like a crude way to do it.

>> Can someone either enlighten me on either
>> (a) the Right ConTeXt Way to do this, or
>> (b) a document that would tell me this, if I knew to read it?

>> I've looked in the wiki, the not-so-short intro to ConTeXt, and "ConTeXt:
>> an excursion" with no luck.

> Hi Jim,

> such a feature exists only to suppress paragraph indentation but not to
> ignore whitespace
> between paragraphs.

> \setupitemize[indentnext=auto]

> \setupindenting[yes,medium]

> \starttext

> Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Curabitur massa
> turpis,
> semper quis fringilla ut, viverra nec risus. Pellentesque habitant morbi
> \unknown

> \startitemize
> \startitem Lorem ipsum \unknown \stopitem
> \stopitemize

> Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Curabitur massa
> turpis,
> semper quis fringilla ut, viverra nec risus. Pellentesque habitant morbi
> \unknown

> \startitemize
> \startitem Lorem ipsum \unknown \stopitem
> \stopitemize
> Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Curabitur massa
> turpis,
> semper quis fringilla ut, viverra nec risus. Pellentesque habitant morbi
> \unknown

> \stoptext

Hi Wolfgang,

thanks for that information.

I would have thought that what I want to do is not so unusual that ConTeXt
does not have the ability to handle it, especially in light of the
indentnext=auto feature which shows that (presumably) some people want to
handle the text following \stopitemize differently, depending on whether or
not the following text is part of the same paragraph.

Perhaps I need to go and contemplate the sins of my formatting
choices... :-)

                                Jim
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