Dnia Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:21:30AM +0800, Yue Wang napisał(a): > On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:56 AM, Aditya Mahajan <adit...@umich.edu> wrote: > > On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, Yue Wang wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> you can find that on http://modules.contextgarden.net/ > >> > >> but anyway, you won't know how easy it is to place figure/text > >> wherever you want in Keynote. > >> In ConTeXt, you cannot achieve that. > > > > Sure you can. Use a background layer, and then you can place the text > > whereever you want. Not as easy as in Keynote or powerpoint, but it can be > > done. > > > achieve the "easiness" I mean. > positioning/adjusting graphics/text using a mouse is much easier than > do that with keyboard, > and one should compile/adjust xs and ys many times in order to get the > right result.
Well, using the keyboard and not the mouse is IMHO one of the TeX (and LateX, and ConTeXt, and METAPOST, and METAFUN, and tikz) advantages: I may have repeatable (and uniform throughout the document) results without having to put a (physical) ruler onto my monitor;)... My experience shows that the best way to prepare a complicated document, and especially one containing complicated mathematics/graphics/tables, is to: 1. think about it 2. sketch it on a piece of paper 3. think a bit more 4. write down the important coordinates etc. 5. type into the computer what I have done in part 4. This way you don't really have to adjust it too many times (maybe twice or thrice). > not to say how to create beautiful 2d/3d charts and tables, > make simple drawings, metafun or tikz > get fancy templates, > apply some advanced features to graphics/texts (like mirror, or > believable shade) > Well, I know in theory everything above is doable using TeX, > but extra amount of work should be done, and the ConTeXt approach > (using metafun?) quite unproductive. As I said: the bulk of the work when preparing a good document is *thinking* (and writing the *text*). Even two or three hours of typing don't really make a difference, especially if you get nicer results than when using mouse (each picture etc. in slightly different position and/or size...) > So unless someone develop a good GUI frontend for TeX, > using TeX for unstructured documents (like presentation slides) is > always not a good idea. This might be debatable, but I would risk a following statement: if you consider your presentation slides "unstructured", maybe it's time to devote more thinking to it... But a GUI would be nice in fact, especially for tikz. I agree that in some cases it would be faster to use it than to type everything. Regards -- Marcin Borkowski (http://mbork.pl) - Why vim users don't use the ESC key? - It's too far on the keyboard. It's faster to type ctrl-[. ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________
