On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 11:47 PM Hans Hagen <j.ha...@xs4all.nl> wrote:

>
> never call a diaeresis an umlaut and vise versa ...


hm
latin is  vice versa (or versa vice)
italian is viceversa
english is vice versa

https://forvo.com/word/vice_versa/
I think that  the latin one is the classic (or "restituta") pronunciation,
the
ecclesiastic should be more or less like the italian .

-- 
luigi
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