Chicago-style footnote user here,

I would be interested in helping with testing.

Jelle

On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 11:50 PM Alan Braslau <braslau.l...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 30 Jun 2021 19:40:06 +0000
> <denis.ma...@unibe.ch> wrote:
>
> > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > Von: Alan Braslau <braslau.l...@comcast.net>
> > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. Juni 2021 21:11
> > > An: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>; Maier,
> > > Denis Christian (UB) <denis.ma...@unibe.ch>
> > > Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Different authorconversion for citation
> > > alternatives and bibliographic entries
> > >
> > > On 30/06/21 12:59, denis.ma...@unibe.ch wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > >> Von: ntg-context<ntg-context-boun...@ntg.nl>  Im Auftrag von
> > > >> Ágoston Volcz
> > > >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. Juni 2021 10:20 An:ntg-context@ntg.nl
> > > >> Betreff: [NTG-context] Different authorconversion for citation
> > > >> alternatives and bibliographic entries
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi there,
> > > >>
> > > >> My university has special requirements for the theses I submit.
> > > >> Layout, fonts etc. are pretty straightforward to set up in
> > > >> ConTeXt. The one part I'm struggling with is citations /
> > > >> bibliography. I have to use the german citation style with
> > > >> footnotes. Essentially the first time I cite something, I have
> > > >> to put the full entry in a footnote. From the second time on, I
> > > >> only have to put a shorter entry in the
> > > footnotes.
> > > > Is this first citation vs other citations thing currently
> > > > possible with ConTeXt? I
> > > was thinking that there was no proper support for note style
> > > citations in ConTeXt? Has that changed? I remember reading the
> > > phrase "We may add additional citation styles if there demand and
> > > clear requirements exist." So what's the current state of affairs
> > > here?
> > > >
> > > > Denis
> > >
> > > Indeed (one can always use \footnote{} but that might not be a good
> > > substitute for a proper footnote citation style.
> > >
> > > I do not use footnote citations as a general style (and personally
> > > dislike it, finding them somewhat distracting and sloppy). Yet
> > > these are popular in many fields and there is no reason not to
> > > support it.
> >
> > So what would be needed to make add real support for it?
>
> First of all, come to a consensus on a clear style guide to base this
> on, so as not to run after ambiguous and perhaps contradictory
> specifications. This would be distinct from the APA (author-year) model
> as well as from the minimalist APS (numbered) style. Could this perhaps
> be the Chicago style? (does that have a footnote specification?)
>
> Secondly, identify users who would be willing to spend time testing and
> giving feedback.
>
> Thirdly, motivate Hans and myself to spend time on this (implementing
> or helping implement), for neither of us use the footnote style.
>
> So it can be done, and such a model is presently missing.
>
> Alan
>
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