We were not involved in a voluntary program...

On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Steven M. Caesare <scaes...@caesare.com>wrote:

> Or make the denial very narrow in scope, so as to have an avenue for
> plausible deniability if/when you are found out later..****
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> -sc ****
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> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Schaefer
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 6, 2013 9:40 PM
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> *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* RE: [NTSysADM] Now the fertilizer hits the ventilator - or,
> through a PRISM darkly****
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> Considering the fallout if they deny this, and it turns out to be true
> (both due to litigation, and customers fleeing their services), I’d be
> inclined to think that they wouldn’t willy-nilly issue untrue denials.****
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> Given how many companies are involved, and how many people would need to
> know (technical people, legal people, senior execs), I just don’t see how
> you could keep this all covered up for a significant amount of time.****
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> Cheers****
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> Ken****
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> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [
> mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Jonathan Link
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> *Sent:* Friday, 7 June 2013 11:28 AM
> *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* Re: [NTSysADM] Now the fertilizer hits the ventilator - or,
> through a PRISM darkly****
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> That's my operating theory.****
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> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Jon Harris <jk.har...@live.com> wrote:****
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> Considering the fallout if they admit to allowing this type of thing to be
> done I would guess not them (Microsoft et. al.).
>
> Jon
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> > From: k...@kj.net.au
> > To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> > Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Now the fertilizer hits the ventilator - or,
> through a PRISM darkly
> > Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 01:04:08 +0000****
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> > Microsoft, Google and Facebook have already issued denials. I seriously
> wonder who's telling the truth :-|
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
> > Sent: Friday, 7 June 2013 10:27 AM
> > To: NTSysADM@lists.myitforum.com
> > Subject: [NTSysADM] Now the fertilizer hits the ventilator - or, through
> a PRISM darkly
> >
> > http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants-nsa-data
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> http://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/us-intelligence-mining-data-from-nine-us-internet-companies-in-broad-secret-program/2013/06/06/3a0c0da8-cebf-11e2-8845-d970ccb04497_print.html
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> > Kurt
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> > ****
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