The desktop/laptops are on lease. The return label, which is provided,
shows that it is going back to the leasing company.

Daniel

On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Eric Pagan <epa...@thecitizensbank.cc>
wrote:

> I work in a banking environment, and when we erase old drives to be
> donated we have to use professional software that provides documentation
> saying that the drive is erased. In our case, we use blancco.
> http://www.blancco.com/us/frontpage/  If the drive fails any part of the
> erasure it gets tossed into a box to be physically destroyed by another
> professional service that certifies the destruction. (I feel for the people
> that have to write down hundreds of serial numbers and disk sizes.) If
> you’re just sending back to HQ, then maybe they plan on doing something
> similar as someone else said and the erasure you’re doing is just an
> intermediate step. Not to say it’s a safe one. As far as liability goes I
> cannot say.
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Jon Harris
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 28, 2015 10:36 PM
> *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* RE: [NTSysADM] Freeware in a corporate setting
>
>
>
> Does the bank understand that software wiping is not considered safe for
> release of sensitive information?  Admittedly I doubt the company receiving
> the old machines would want to pay the price to recover the "wiped" data
> but I am sure it could be done.  It would just depend on how much someone
> wanted to pay to recover the drive's data.
>
> Jon
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 22:27:55 -0500
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Freeware in a corporate setting
> From: drod...@gmail.com
> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
>
> Mark,
>
>
>
> You are right, I do need to give you some more information, so here goes:
>
>
>
> The computer/laptops are on lease. They need to be 'swapped out', hence
> the end-users are getting new equipment that is on lease.
>
>
>
> The instructions specify that the old hard drives need to be wiped. No del
> *.* or formatting is allowed.
>
>
>
> These are the instructions I received on the first day:
>
>
>
> 1. Bring black markers
>
>
>
> 2. Bring packing tape and a taping gun
>
>
>
> 3. Make a copy of UBCD, latest version on CD. Bring that with you onsite.
> You are to use it to wipe the drive. DO NOT FORMAT THE HARD DRIVE. DRIVE
> MUST BE WIPED.
>
>
>
> 4. 2 hour time limit on each computer you work on. Ok to go 2.5 hours, but
> if longer than that call helpdesk number for approval.
>
>
>
> 5. After capture of user profile data, swap out old equipment wit new
> equipment and perform restore. After restore is done, have user open all
> applications and determine that their data is back on the new equipment.
> Once they are satisfied that their data is there wipe the hard drive with
> the software that you brought.
>
>
>
> 6. Package old equipment in shipping container that new equipment came in
> and apply supplied shipping label to box.
>
>
>
> I will be glad to supply more info if anyone desires it.
>
>
>
> Daniel
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 10:09 PM, Mark Liechty <m...@mliechty.com> wrote:
>
> I disagree.   If you are told what software to use and you are given
> specific instructions in writing as to the procedure then you are not on
> the hook for if the software performs from a legal compliance point of view.
>
> If it is a bank and they say that all you needed to do was del *.* and
> toss in the goodwill donation bin then you do as you are told.   The
> exception would be if you were somehow a legal compliance expert and data
> security was part of your contract.
>
> As for software licensing again, if you get specific instructions then who
> are you to challenge what license agreement may or may not be in place from
> the company who hires you to performa a specific tasks.
>
> Note that this is 100% different than if you are told to securely wipe xx
> drives to meet yy standards for zz compliance reasons and you must also
> backup preserve some portion of user data.
>
> The rest of this is us having a good time at your expense.  The way you
> outline things you are not really a contractor anyway.  You cannot get that
> tight of procedures and be “independent” but that is a totally separate
> issue.
>
> If you don’t like the job quitting is also an option.
>
> > #######
> > It's up to you to discover the license, read it, and decide for
> > yourself what it means, and if you have problems with it, then report
> > it to the responsible parties for a decision.
>
>
>
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