How long do you have to keep the 2003 boxes around? What does the end state 
look like from a DC perspective? How big is the environment? Multiple sites? 
Single forest? Single domain?



From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Kennedy, Jim
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 2:22 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Domain controller updates

Are you in a position where you can remove the 2003 DC's before adding 2012 R2 
DC? Perhaps after hours or on a weekend.

Spin up a couple 2008's, even if they are on desktop boxes....transfer the 
roles. Depromo the 2003's and bring up the 2012's.


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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Brian Desmond
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 2:15 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Domain controller updates

I agree with Bob. Take the time to patch them to SP2+ before you do this.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond

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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Free Jr., Bob
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 12:08 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Domain controller updates

If they are truly at 2003 RTM, my money would be on you having difficulties, 
potentially serious.

I have done several AD upgrades from 2003-2008 & 2003-2012 and if it was an 
environment of any consequence, I  wouldn't touch this with a 10 foot pole (or 
whatever the metric equivalent is.)

There are articles outlining which additional patches and measures you should 
have on a *fully patched* systems before introducing up-level DCs.

Even then, there are specific problems you may encounter with mixed DCs even 
though the 2003's are patched.

Study the TechNet article(s) about updating 2003 domains and follow carefully. 
You will  be able to rule some, or a lot of it out for your environment but 
there are multiple potential gotchas.

Ensure you have the AD specific patches that aren't necessarily in WU. We had 
to pull some down manually that our SCCM guys weren't getting from WU.

It very well might be easier and less risky to do a slam-bang upgrade to 2012R2 
and skip the co-existence phase but I don't know your environment or 
constraints.



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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Gavin Wilby
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:28 AM
To: 'ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com'
Subject: [NTSysADM] Domain controller updates

Hi,

I have got a 2003 functional level forest/ domain with 2x 2003 servers and 1x 
2008 server acting as DC's. One of the 2003 servers holds all of the FSMO roles.

I have stood up a new 2012R2 server, fully patched it and added the ADDS role 
to it, but not yet promoted it. It will also take over the FSMO roles in time.

Having checked it appears that none of the current DC's have ever been updated 
from the day they were put in. Now bearing in mind they are all to be 
de-commisioned in the long term is there any point in patching them before 
adding the new 2012r2 DC, or if I leave them at RTM, am I going to experience 
issues with bringing a new DC online?

Anyone done this?

Gavin Wilby
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