I was in the same boat, really never noticed this, until I had to do some 
testing for port access with a new environment we are spinning up. If you look 
for it on the domain controllers you will definitely see it.
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That all seems to be working fine in all our domains. I’m still struggling to 
find out why a test using Portqry or LDP fails in our production domains, but 
not in the new domains.  I see the request get to the domain controller, but 
the DC doesn’t respond.  Very odd.

Thanks
Chris


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 3:40 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] LDAP Ping question

To the OP: is 389 UDP open on your older DCs in the firewall?

(Honestly, I didn’t know 389 UDP was ever used for LDAP. I thought it was just 
a TCP protocol.)

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 2:28 PM
To: ntsysadm
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] LDAP Ping question

Don't the answer to your question, but I suspect you'll get a much better 
response on the Active Directory list at activedir.org<http://activedir.org>
Kurt

On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Christopher Bodnar 
<christopher_bod...@glic.com<mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com>> wrote:
OK, I’ve done some more testing. I loaded WireShark on a domain controller, and 
restarted a member server, and filtered for udp.port==389 .  It is working as 
expected in all domains. So that is good. What I don’t understand is why a test 
using LDP fails in my production domains, but not in the new domain I just 
stood up. In Wireshark the UDP request is received by the DC, but it never 
responds.

From: Christopher Bodnar
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 10:14 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] LDAP Ping question

Now I’m really confused. After doing some more research on this, it looks like 
LDP is a good tool for testing. From a new forest that I just spun up, it works 
fine:

ld = cldap_open("x.x.x.x", 389);
Established connection to x.x.x.x.
Retrieving base DSA information...
Getting 1 entries:
Dn: (RootDSE)
configurationNamingContext: CN=Configuration,DC=widgets,DC=com;
currentTime: 11/4/2016 1:17:52 AM Coordinated Universal Time;
defaultNamingContext: DC=widgets,DC=com;

But in our production domains, from every client machine I’ve tested from, 
against every domain controller, it fails:
0x0 = ldap_unbind(ld);
ld = cldap_open("x.x.x.x", 389);
Established connection to x.x.x.x.
Retrieving base DSA information...
Server error: <empty>
Error<94>: ldap_parse_result failed: No result present in message
Getting 0 entries:

Yet as far as I can tell everything in the domain is working as expected. From 
the reading I did on the DC Locator process, it’s my understanding that if you 
can’t find a DC using this process….. it should fail. Which would mean nobody 
would be able to logon. Is it possible that this is working, but the test I’m 
doing from client machines isn’t really a valid test? Is it possible that it 
flips to TCP if it can’t connect over UDP? I plan on putting Wireshark on a 
domain controller and looking for this.


Very strange.

Thanks
Chris

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Micheal Espinola Jr
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 9:19 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] LDAP Ping question

As I understand it, LDAP Ping is more of a handshake test - not an open port 
check.

--
Espi


On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Christopher Bodnar 
<christopher_bod...@glic.com<mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com>> wrote:
I understand the function of an LDAP Ping over UDP/389 in the DC Locator 
process, but shouldn’t that respond to a Portqry? When I test this I receive 
the following:

UDP port 389 (unknown service): LISTENING or FILTERED

I’ve tested this in 3 separate forests against multiple domain controllers and 
I have gotten the same results in every case. All are 2008 R2 DFL/FFL. A 
Netstat –an does show this:

UDP    x.x.x.x:389      *:*

Which seems to be correct for a UDP port that is also listening on TCP? I don’t 
notice anything wrong in the domains, was just going through some firewall port 
requests and tested this. Is Portqry not a real test of this function?

My next step will be to run a WireShark trace on a DC to look for this traffic.


Thanks



Christopher Bodnar
Enterprise Architect II, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture 
and Engineering Services

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