Thank you, James. I will keep that in mind should the opportunity arise.
From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 12:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Training (was RE: Error message in logs) Training ain't all about money. You can learn most everything you need to know about GPOs from a small lab which could be set up on a couple of old PCs, coupled with some online docs. I know you also said you were low on spare time, but when things are quiet I usually tinker with some test stuff, which is how I'm trying to learn my XenApp 6.5 skills at the moment. On 1 August 2011 17:08, John Aldrich <jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> wrote: Agreed. Not ENTIRELY the community, at least. I admit, I am frustrated and overloaded here. That being said, is it REALLY too much to ask that we NOT continue flogging a particular dead horse? I know I need more training. I have no money for said training, and it's extremely frustrating when people insist on posting "that's elementary. You should just go get more training." That sort of reply is NOT helpful. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 12:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Training (was RE: Error message in logs) John, are you starting to notice a pattern here? You have a problem. Someone helps you, probably not as well as you'd like, or in the manner you like, and offers some unsolicited comment about the way you ask for help, or your reputation for accepting help, etc. You rant. Someone explains things. You calm down. This has been a pretty common cycle, and the frequency with which it repeats should be telling that the fault is not on the community. On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 11:54 AM, John Aldrich <jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> wrote: Thank you, Andrew, for your reasoned words. I am extremely frustrated and overloaded with work right now, and when people insist on saying "pay for your own training" when I *specifically* requested that we cease flogging that particular deceased equine, I lash out. I would like to apologize to the list in general. However, my point remains: I have no money, whatsoever, for training. I am doing good to pay my bills as it is. Thank you for understanding. Should conditions change such that I can afford to pay my bills, eat AND keep a roof over my head as well as pay for training, I will do so. Please let's not continue with "sometimes you just have to pay for your own training" for the time being. Please. This has been a VERY hectic Monday and it's not even half over yet. Sorry for any hard feelings. I have tried to take to heart the need to try to find the answers on my own. Obviously some folks didn't notice that I had not had much luck searching, but I did try. Thank you. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 11:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Training (was RE: Error message in logs) Biting the hands that feed you is always bad policy. If you insist on taking that approach, you might consider doing so off-line so you don't destroy what little sympathy appears to remain for you on this list. Unless, of course, your real goal is just to annoy and create confusion, in which case, carry on. ASB http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 11:11 AM, John Aldrich <jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> wrote: Apparently you didn't read my initial post. I DID Google. I found a page that applied to Windows 2000, but supposedly said it applied to 2003 as well. Guess what. It didn't. I posted on here and CONTINUED to search. I finally found another page that refers to a different KB article that explains that it's likely a corrupt local GPO. So, yes, I did do "due diligence." <sarcasm> Sorry if I didn't do enough for you or do it fast enough! </sarcasm> -----Original Message----- From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bem...@pittcountync.gov] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 10:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Training (was RE: Error message in logs) That does not mean that the list should then provide that training to you for free. I will not speak in broad generalizations, but, in regards to your most recent emergency, you could have found out most of the information you solicited from the list on the internet for free. There is an expectation that you will put some good faith effort into solving your own problems before coming to the list. There are some great, intelligent, experienced folks on this list, and they really try to help. The least we can all do when coming for assistance is to try and do some basic troubleshooting and research on our own, so as not to waste other people's time and annoy them. This cannot turn into a newbie support list, or all those aforementioned folks are going to leave. Please stop abusing this list so that it can remain the valuable resource it is. Bill Mayo -----Original Message----- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 10:26 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Training (was RE: Error message in logs) <RANT> Guys, I DO understand where you're coming from. Really. But do you not recall my diatribe last week about not having any money to pay for training? I wasn't speaking JUST about my employer, I was speaking about myself too. I really don't have the money for training. I am living paycheck to paycheck and STILL coming up short every month, so I really don't want to hear about "pay for training yourself!" And trust me, I'm not living high on the hog. There's no champagne and caviar or expensive cars, etc. If you really want me to get training, give me the money and I'll gladly go get training. Really, just tell me where to find the money and I'll do it. Thanks! </RANT> -----Original Message----- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Error message in logs +10,000,000 I think the last time I had an employer pay for my training was in, uh, 1995 or so? -----Original Message----- From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 10:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Error message in logs Sometimes YOU have to invest YOUR own money in YOUR own training. Pays off in the LONG term. Just my $0.02US worth of advice. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com > -----Original Message----- > From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] > Subject: RE: Error message in logs > > Ok, I take it back. There are some GPOs, but they are in the nature of > password policy. I didn't realize those were "GPOs." 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