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On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr < michealespin...@gmail.com> wrote: > Bummer, I exchanged by ban-stick for a mocking-racket. But, its a +7 > against anonymous emailers. > -- > Espi > > > > On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 5:21 PM, <cynicalg...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> You Guys and gals giggle about it. I'm still in a good mood. No hard >> feelings. Think about the CONTENT*[citation needed]* I gave you and you >> can hat tip me later. >> >> I'm not going anywhere unless you ban me. I don't think you will nor do >> I think you have reason to. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Mar 14, 2012, at 6:52 PM, Don Ely <don....@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Folks, not only is Cynicalgeek an expert in legal and educational areas, >> he's also now proven to be 31337! >> On Mar 14, 2012 3:49 PM, "Cynicalgeek" <cynicalg...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Yea, like pointing out the fact that the moderators of this LISTSERV are >>> doing it wrong. >>> >>> The LISTSERV can't keep up with the traffic. >>> >>> There's no security whatsoever on the accounts of members of these lists. >>> >>> Go ahead, go log in as anybody that you want to, change their password, >>> their name, and their Email address. Heck, sign them up for other mailing >>> lists if you want. >>> >>> Do you need ANY OTHER REASON to move the list? >>> >>> BTW, you're welcome for pointing that out to everybody. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Jonathan Link >>> <jonathan.l...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> In the absence of updates and information rumors and dark thoughts >>>> grow... >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Paul Hutchings < >>>> paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Cynical as I am I wouldn't attribute to malice what can be >>>>> attributed to poor software or a configuration problem :) >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> *From:* Jonathan Link [jonathan.l...@gmail.com] >>>>> *Sent:* 14 March 2012 2:17 PM >>>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues >>>>> *Subject:* Re: List Speed? >>>>> >>>>> I'd rather have fast list response and associated griping than the >>>>> current situation. >>>>> >>>>> My cynical mind? GFI doesn't want to maintain the lists, or at least >>>>> not do it for free. Sunbelt built a lot of goodwill by hosting the list >>>>> and getting free advertising out of it. Since GFI has taken over, I see >>>>> very little marketing to the lists, so I can't help but wonder if the >>>>> lists >>>>> are just being squeeze out. That's me. I'm a cynical guy. >>>>> >>>>> Note, it's not unreasonable for GFI to not want to continue hosting >>>>> the list. They don't owe us anything. However, the reverse is true. And >>>>> a lot of goodwill will end up getting trashed if the list response time >>>>> isn't fixed, and it continues to hobble along like this for a while. I'm >>>>> saying, in response to Richard's post, that I am willing to pay a little >>>>> money for continued access to this community. I don't mind the OT posts, >>>>> and a moderator can always step in and say, cool it, whether it is "free" >>>>> or subscriber sponsored >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Maglinger, Paul <pmaglin...@scvl.com >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yeah, but then everyone would feel justified in griping about OT >>>>>> posts. (I’m paying good money for this?!?!)**** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> -Paul**** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Guyer, Donald [mailto:dgu...@che.org] >>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 14, 2012 7:54 AM >>>>>> >>>>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues >>>>>> *Subject:* RE: List Speed?**** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> I’d be in for an annual fee. The (useful and applicable) knowledge >>>>>> I’ve gained participating in this list far outweighs any other source >>>>>> I’ve >>>>>> been exposed to, ever.**** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards,**** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> Don Guyer**** >>>>>> >>>>>> Directory and Messaging Services >>>>>> Catholic Health East, ITSS**** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] >>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 13, 2012 10:57 PM >>>>>> >>>>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: List Speed?**** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> I'd pay. Even annually. The utility of this list is approaching >>>>>> nil. Yeah, I go off-topic, I admit it. Find a frequent contributor who >>>>>> doesn't...**** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> Waiting 4 or more hours for a reply, seeing multiple postings about >>>>>> the same item (Dell acquiring Sonicwall) is something I can do without. >>>>>> **** >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Richard Stovall <rich...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote:**** >>>>>> >>>>>> <$.02> **** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> It's a disaster anymore. Throw in something like the BBQ discussion, >>>>>> or any other topic which generates a lot of traffic, and it's all over >>>>>> for >>>>>> hours. Why this has persisted for so long is incomprehensible to me. >>>>>> **** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> I realize that the lists are a free service, and I am truly, truly >>>>>> grateful for them. And the simple matter of the fact is that they're >>>>>> just >>>>>> not working very effectively anymore.**** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> My vote is to either kill the lists or fix them.* I think a lot of >>>>>> people would be somewhat saddened to see the Sunbelt lists go away after >>>>>> all this time, but I also feel confident that most everyone would >>>>>> resubscribe somewhere else pretty darn quickly if an alternative >>>>>> presented >>>>>> itself and was made known to all the members.**** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> * Would I pay a voluntary one-time fee of $5 or $10 to help defray >>>>>> the cost of upgrading friggin' Lyris? Yes. Yes I would.**** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> </$.02>**** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> 2012/3/13 Paul Hutchings <paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk>**** >>>>>> >>>>>> Did we ever get anywhere with list speed? **** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> A post today took an hour to show up (and before I started to receive >>>>>> any out-of-office replies so that's not just the time taken to make it to >>>>>> my Inbox).**** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> I know there was a thread that mentioned issues with a Lyris >>>>>> "upgrade", but I don't remember seeing anything beyond that?**** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> Respectfully, the delays are really starting to make me think twice >>>>>> about posting as I find myself thinking "It'll take an hour to appear, >>>>>> someone will have already responded by then".**** >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> *MIRA Ltd***** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England**** >>>>>> >>>>>> Registered in England and Wales No. 402570**** >>>>>> >>>>>> VAT Registration GB 100 1464 84**** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the >>>>>> use of the intended recipient. 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