Is 'pffft' short for the 'Community involvement' part of the MVP?  :)


On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Michael B. Smith <mich...@smithcons.com>wrote:

>  Pffft. I did nothing here but translate.****
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> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david....@nwea.org]
> *Sent:* Friday, September 21, 2012 10:57 AM
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> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: NetApp CIFS, Windows Servers and Send unencrypted password
> to third-party SMB servers****
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> Thank you so much MBS – proving once again your MVP is well deserved!
> <KUDOS>****
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> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, September 21, 2012 7:51 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: NetApp CIFS, Windows Servers and Send unencrypted password
> to third-party SMB servers****
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> OK.****
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> Final word back from NetApp – the storage guy brought in their AD team: If
> this is occurring then your setup is incorrect and you need to raise a
> support call.****
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> There should never be a need to set that option, based on what you have
> shared as your configuration.****
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> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david....@nwea.org]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 19, 2012 4:47 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: NetApp CIFS, Windows Servers and Send unencrypted password
> to third-party SMB servers****
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> Currently yes.****
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> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:35 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: NetApp CIFS, Windows Servers and Send unencrypted password
> to third-party SMB servers****
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> Is it bidirectional?****
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> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david....@nwea.org]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 19, 2012 4:14 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: NetApp CIFS, Windows Servers and Send unencrypted password
> to third-party SMB servers****
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> They were joined to Forest 1 DomainB. The error is when trying to map from
> a server in Forest2  DomainA. There’s a trust at that level as well, if
> that matters.****
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> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 19, 2012 12:48 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: NetApp CIFS, Windows Servers and Send unencrypted password
> to third-party SMB servers****
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> His response:****
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> OK, it's guesswork at this stage but I want to suggest that when they ran
> CIFS setup on the controllers they selected Option 4. That suggests they
> did not join the controllers to the domain and are using some LDAP/NIS
> authentication mechanism and therefore, yes, the controllers are suddenly
> not Windows boxes & members of the domain, but are, sadly, probably
> exposing CIFS and NFS in the same volume (perfectly supported and legal
> etc) but not what the Windows clients prefer to play with......... Check
> with them, are the controllers (or the VFilers (they'll know what you
> mean)) ON the domain..... If they are then you shouldn't need the setting
> you specify (even with the old Windows 2003 clients) but if the controllers
> are NOT part of the domain then you're dealing with "3rd party" and will
> probably need that setting. That would be time for an infrastructure review
> to understand why Windows SERVER clients are accessing files off a NetApp
> NAS when that NAS is not inside the home forest, or at least a trusted
> Windows forest.****
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> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:07 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: NetApp CIFS, Windows Servers and Send unencrypted password
> to third-party SMB servers****
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> I’ve passed the info along.****
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> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david....@nwea.org]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 19, 2012 2:49 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: NetApp CIFS, Windows Servers and Send unencrypted password
> to third-party SMB servers****
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> DFL: 2003 ****
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> OTAP version: 803Pp2****
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> Windows versions of client devices are 2003 and 2008 R2****
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> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 19, 2012 11:29 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: NetApp CIFS, Windows Servers and Send unencrypted password
> to third-party SMB servers****
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> This is what a senior NetApp engineer says:****
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> You're not dealing with storage as a matter of fact. We natively join the
> domain and look like a Windows box - for the most part. Question to ask
> them before I answer you. DFL of AD. Version on OnTAP on the storage and
> Windows version of the client devices. I'll get back to you when near a big
> keyboard and armed with the answer i those questions. ****
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> First pass? Old information. Probably no longer accurate.****
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> So…what are the answers to his questions? J****
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> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:58 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: NetApp CIFS, Windows Servers and Send unencrypted password
> to third-party SMB servers****
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> I wouldn’t do that.****
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> But let me check with a netapp guy.****
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> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david....@nwea.org]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 19, 2012 12:27 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* NetApp CIFS, Windows Servers and Send unencrypted password to
> third-party SMB servers****
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> I am being asked to enable the setting “Send unencrypted password to
> third-party SMB servers” so we can map Windows Servers to NetApp CIFS
> shares. This thread shows it worked for him:****
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> https://communities.netapp.com/thread/24037****
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> Anyone here have any experience with NetApp, CIFS and Windows servers?****
>
> *David Lum*
> Systems Engineer // NWEATM
> Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764****
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