Is 'pffft' short for the 'Community involvement' part of the MVP? :)
On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Michael B. Smith <mich...@smithcons.com>wrote: > Pffft. I did nothing here but translate.**** > > ** ** > > *From:* David Lum [mailto:david....@nwea.org] > *Sent:* Friday, September 21, 2012 10:57 AM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: NetApp CIFS, Windows Servers and Send unencrypted password > to third-party SMB servers**** > > ** ** > > Thank you so much MBS – proving once again your MVP is well deserved! > <KUDOS>**** > > ** ** > > *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] > *Sent:* Friday, September 21, 2012 7:51 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: NetApp CIFS, Windows Servers and Send unencrypted password > to third-party SMB servers**** > > ** ** > > OK.**** > > ** ** > > Final word back from NetApp – the storage guy brought in their AD team: If > this is occurring then your setup is incorrect and you need to raise a > support call.**** > > ** ** > > There should never be a need to set that option, based on what you have > shared as your configuration.**** > > ** ** > > *From:* David Lum [mailto:david....@nwea.org] > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 19, 2012 4:47 PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: NetApp CIFS, Windows Servers and Send unencrypted password > to third-party SMB servers**** > > ** ** > > Currently yes.**** > > ** ** > > *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:35 PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: NetApp CIFS, Windows Servers and Send unencrypted password > to third-party SMB servers**** > > ** ** > > Is it bidirectional?**** > > ** ** > > *From:* David Lum [mailto:david....@nwea.org] > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 19, 2012 4:14 PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: NetApp CIFS, Windows Servers and Send unencrypted password > to third-party SMB servers**** > > ** ** > > They were joined to Forest 1 DomainB. The error is when trying to map from > a server in Forest2 DomainA. There’s a trust at that level as well, if > that matters.**** > > ** ** > > *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 19, 2012 12:48 PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: NetApp CIFS, Windows Servers and Send unencrypted password > to third-party SMB servers**** > > ** ** > > His response:**** > > ** ** > > OK, it's guesswork at this stage but I want to suggest that when they ran > CIFS setup on the controllers they selected Option 4. That suggests they > did not join the controllers to the domain and are using some LDAP/NIS > authentication mechanism and therefore, yes, the controllers are suddenly > not Windows boxes & members of the domain, but are, sadly, probably > exposing CIFS and NFS in the same volume (perfectly supported and legal > etc) but not what the Windows clients prefer to play with......... Check > with them, are the controllers (or the VFilers (they'll know what you > mean)) ON the domain..... If they are then you shouldn't need the setting > you specify (even with the old Windows 2003 clients) but if the controllers > are NOT part of the domain then you're dealing with "3rd party" and will > probably need that setting. That would be time for an infrastructure review > to understand why Windows SERVER clients are accessing files off a NetApp > NAS when that NAS is not inside the home forest, or at least a trusted > Windows forest.**** > > ** ** > > *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:07 PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: NetApp CIFS, Windows Servers and Send unencrypted password > to third-party SMB servers**** > > ** ** > > I’ve passed the info along.**** > > ** ** > > *From:* David Lum [mailto:david....@nwea.org] > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 19, 2012 2:49 PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: NetApp CIFS, Windows Servers and Send unencrypted password > to third-party SMB servers**** > > ** ** > > DFL: 2003 **** > > OTAP version: 803Pp2**** > > Windows versions of client devices are 2003 and 2008 R2**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 19, 2012 11:29 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: NetApp CIFS, Windows Servers and Send unencrypted password > to third-party SMB servers**** > > ** ** > > This is what a senior NetApp engineer says:**** > > ** ** > > You're not dealing with storage as a matter of fact. We natively join the > domain and look like a Windows box - for the most part. Question to ask > them before I answer you. DFL of AD. Version on OnTAP on the storage and > Windows version of the client devices. I'll get back to you when near a big > keyboard and armed with the answer i those questions. **** > > ** ** > > First pass? Old information. Probably no longer accurate.**** > > ** ** > > So…what are the answers to his questions? J**** > > ** ** > > *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:58 PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: NetApp CIFS, Windows Servers and Send unencrypted password > to third-party SMB servers**** > > ** ** > > I wouldn’t do that.**** > > ** ** > > But let me check with a netapp guy.**** > > ** ** > > *From:* David Lum [mailto:david....@nwea.org] > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 19, 2012 12:27 PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* NetApp CIFS, Windows Servers and Send unencrypted password to > third-party SMB servers**** > > ** ** > > I am being asked to enable the setting “Send unencrypted password to > third-party SMB servers” so we can map Windows Servers to NetApp CIFS > shares. This thread shows it worked for him:**** > > https://communities.netapp.com/thread/24037**** > > ** ** > > Anyone here have any experience with NetApp, CIFS and Windows servers?**** > > *David Lum* > Systems Engineer // NWEATM > Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin**** > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin**** > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin**** > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin**** > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin**** > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin**** > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin**** > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin**** > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin**** > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin**** > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin**** > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin