We have been stuck at 2003 for some time we found during the discovery phase of 
the upgrade process because the vendor of our Contact Centers' application 
suite won't support the version we are running on anything else. That is 
finally getting upgraded so our AD 2008 migration plan is being resurrected. 
Same vendor will not support version we are upgrading to on 2012 so once again 
we are stuck. This vendor is well known as a hardware vendor who got into the 
software business through acquisition and is famous for a support matrix of 1 
entry per version of their products, at the Windows Service Pack level no less.

Ran into a similar situation on the opposite end of the spectrum where another 
ReallyBig(tm) HW vendor refused to support an implementation of some of its 
software because we were still on 2003. They only supported 2008R2 and insisted 
we have a dedicated SE to cover our "unsupported" configuration because AD 
groups "behaved differently in different versions of Windows"

I still haven't  gotten all the coffee off my monitor from that conf call.

Moral of the story is to do an inventory of critical enterprise apps and make 
sure you don't get into an untenable situation.

I really don't doubt that any one of the 3 versions of AD could support any of 
these apps but when a large vendor waves the unsupported flag there can be a 
pretty hard stop from management.

Ironically, Windows support sunset often comes into play when you get in these 
situations and becomes one of the drivers.

From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 1:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Domain upgrade: 2008 R2 or 2012 ?

Has anyone done this evaluation recently? We are a 2003 R2 shop. We were in the 
process of planning a migration to a 2008 R2 domain last year (hardware was 
bought and deployed), when the funds got cut. From what I hear, we will have 
funding and approval this year for the project. So the question is now, 2008 R2 
or 2012. I've had very little time with 2012 so far. Hopefully that will change 
in the near future. The benefits of going from 2003 to 2008 R2 i've already 
captured. From what I've seen so far, 2012 seems stable and an incremental 
upgrade for our environment. Some of the things that might push me towards 2012 
don't apply in our environment. for Example RDS and Hyper-V. We are a big 
Citrix and VMWare shop. So I don't really see us making use of those specific 
features, or the enhancements in them from previous versions. From my 
understanding 2012 is included in our EA agreement. So I don't think it will 
really be a licensing issue.

Love to hear thoughts and comments from others who are going through this right 
now, or have done this evaluation recently.

Thanks,
Christopher Bodnar
Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture 
and Engineering Services

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