*>>Fortinet probably removed some features because the lower-end machines
couldn’t handle the required workload, I’m guessing.*

**
We know that there will be tradeoffs with UTM.  If a device can't handle
it, then I'll make the decision to go with a larger device, or change the
priorities of my desired features.    However, if you remove the features
from a device that *used* to support it, I'm going to consider a different
vendor, not a different device.





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On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 6:29 AM, Tom Miller <[email protected]> wrote:

>  You may wish to inquire with your reseller about a trade-back.  I had a
> number of 40C devices, upgraded the firmware per support’s recommendation,
> and it was a disaster.  Utilization skyrocketed on all of them and it
> turned out to be one of the core services that I could not disable, and it
> caused the VPN tunnel to constantly drop (this didn’t start until a few
> weeks after the firmware was upgraded).  I worked out a pretty good deal
> with my reseller for the next model up for a great price.  I only got this
> deal after I told the reseller (who was very helpful) that I’d be happy to
> dump Fortinet and go with a competitor.  ****
>
> ** **
>
> Fortinet probably removed some features because the lower-end machines
> couldn’t handle the required workload, I’m guessing. ****
>
> ** **
>
> I didn’t see the issue on the higher models I used.****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* James Hill [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:04 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Fortigate (was Guest network security)****
>
>  ** **
>
> I came across the same issue with a recently purchased 40C and was also
> disappointed.****
>
> ** **
>
> The 60C (soon to be 60D with 2 x the performance) has the traffic shaping
> option and pretty much everything else.****
>
> ** **
>
> Maybe I didn’t look hard enough but it certainly isn’t made obvious on
> their website that the lower end models have features missing.****
>
> ** **
>
> James.****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>]
> *Sent:* Friday, 15 February 2013 2:27 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Fortigate (was Guest network security)****
>
> ** **
>
> One note:  It looks like Traffic Shaping and the Explicit Web Proxy option
> are no longer available under the new OS for certain pieces of hardware,
> including my 40C.   I suspect that anything in the SOHO range had it
> removed.****
>
> ** **
>
> I'm going to downgrade to v4.0 MR3 patch 11, as advised by support.****
>
> ** **
>
> That's not cool.  :(****
>
> ** **
>
> I've asked to see if that functionality will be brought back into the
> device...
>
> (Actually, I found that MR3 patch 12 was released on the 13th, so I've
> downgraded to that)****
>
>
> ****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
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> for the SMB market…*****
>
>  ****
>
> ** **
>
> On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Sam Cayze <[email protected]> wrote:****
>
>  Good to know, thanks!****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Friday, February 08, 2013 8:10 AM****
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues****
>
> *Subject:* Re: Fortigate (was Guest network security)****
>
>  ****
>
> Version 5.0 installed smoothly.  The visual changes are somewhat minimal
> for now, but the performance of the UI improved.  Can't say for the rest of
> the device (performance wise) as I haven't finished migrating to it.
>
> The backups are much smaller under 5.0 than under v4****
>
>
> ****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
> *ASB
> **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>*
> **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security)
> for the SMB market…*****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
> On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Andrew S. Baker <[email protected]>
> wrote:****
>
> I will, as soon as I finish setting this device up today. :)****
>
>
> ****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
> *ASB
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>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
> On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Sam Cayze <[email protected]> wrote:****
>
>  Speaking of Fortigate… (Much love btw).****
>
>  ****
>
> Has anyone taken the jump to V5 of the OS yet?  They’ve patched it once or
> twice already; should be stable.****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 06, 2013 8:06 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: OT: Guest network security****
>
>  ****
>
> Whoa!!!  That looks awesome.     Man, I could really have gone for that a
> few weeks back.
>
> My Fortigate 40C arrives tomorrow. :)****
>
>
> ****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
> *ASB
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>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Richard Stovall <[email protected]> wrote:
> ****
>
> I chose to build a new system so it would be small and silent rather than
> use an old computer lying around the house.****
>
>  ****
>
> I went with:****
>
>  ****
>
> Intel D2500CCE fanless mini-ITX motherboard (Dual core 1.86 GHz Atom CPU
> with dual Intel NICs onboard)****
>
>  ****
>
> 4 GB RAM****
>
>  ****
>
> 128GB Vertex 4 SSD****
>
>  ****
>
> It has been in 'production' for a couple of weeks now, and is stable and
> very fast.  I also really like having the content filtering and
> antivirus capabilities of a UTM firewall at home.****
>
>  ****
>
> The management interface is a little weird at first, but you get used to
> it.****
>
>  ****
>
> I demo'ed the software in a VirtualBox VM for a week or so before pulling
> the trigger on the hardware expense.****
>
>  ****
>
> If anyone is interested, the page at Sophos describing the offering is:
> http://www.sophos.com/en-us/products/free-tools/sophos-utm-home-edition.aspx
> ****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Kurt Buff <[email protected]> wrote:****
>
> Our Sidewinders are EOL at the end of April, and my manager doesn't like
> them.
>
> He's a Cisco bigot, and wants ASAs in here.
>
> I'm fighting him to at least take a look at the Palo Alto platform, or
> perhaps the newest iteration of the Sidewinders (which are now called
> McAfee Enteprise Firewalls).
>
> That's an interesting tip on the Sophos solution. What did you use for
> the hardware?
>
> Kurt****
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Richard Stovall <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > I was going to suggest using the SonicPoint solution from SonicWall, but
> > you've got Sidewinders, don't you?
> >
> > Does McAfee have anything like SonicWall's wireless solution where it's
> all
> > managed from the firewall?
> >
> > PS  Sophos has this too, and they give their UTM firewall away free for
> home
> > use.  Just bring your own hardware.  I just switched to this the other
> day
> > and love it so far.  I should write a blog post about it.  (But then I'd
> > have to create a blog...)
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Kurt Buff <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>****
>
> >> All,
> >>
> >> Quite some time ago, I set up an unsecured guest VLAN in our network,
> >> providing wireless access to all of the sundry devices that staff and
> >> visitors carry. I set up a small FreeBSD machine to serve IP addresses
> >> via DHCP, and that was dead simple.
> >>
> >> It is a layer2 VLAN, traversing our backbone, and terminating on our
> >> corporate firewall.
> >>
> >> However, there are now other tenants in our building, and the subnet
> >> is getting too much bandwidth and address consumption - the range I
> >> set up is completely filled, and the VLAN is consuming about half of
> >> our Internet pipe, which is far too much for my comfort.
> >>
> >> I suspect the other tenants are leeching.
> >>
> >> What I've read of captive portals seems to indicate that the portal is
> >> part of the firewall. I could be wrong about that, though. Regardless,
> the
> >> corporate firewall will not be allowed to be part of this solution.
> >>
> >> The only other alternative I see right now is to set up a password on
> >> the SSID, and have the front desk hand it out to guests, after mailing
> >> it to staff, and I'm getting pushback on that from my manager.
> >>
> >> Does anyone have some ideas I could pursue on this?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Kurt
> >>
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