I was head of IT for a telecom company until sometime in 1999. I can assure you - if we did NOT have those "sky may fall" teams to update thousands upon thousands of lines of COBOL code - the sky would've fallen, at least for that company.
We found many issues that required addressing. I doubt that we were the only ones. ________________________________ From: Don Ely [don....@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 10:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: List Statistics - The sky is falling! The sky is falling! No it's not! On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Don Guyer <don.gu...@prufoxroach.com<mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com>> wrote: I’ve been on since preparations for the Y2k disaster, that never was. Don Guyer Systems Engineer - Information Services Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group 431 W. Lancaster Avenue Devon, PA 19333 Direct: (610) 993-3299 Fax: (610) 650-5306 don.gu...@prufoxroach.com<mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com> From: Don Ely [mailto:don....@gmail.com<mailto:don....@gmail.com>] Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 10:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: List Statistics - Sure was... On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 7:28 AM, paul chinnery <pdw1...@hotmail.com<mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com>> wrote: Weren't you a subscriber to the old Exchange list? The one with Ed Crowley and Ed Woodrick? Now, that list had some flame wars. ________________________________ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:23:34 -0700 Subject: Re: List Statistics - From: don....@gmail.com<mailto:don....@gmail.com> To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> 1998-2002 were the real flame war years... On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 7:22 AM, James Kerr <cluster...@gmail.com<mailto:cluster...@gmail.com>> wrote: This list always seems to be copacetic until somebody posts something political. I don't recall any major flame wars erupting here but my memory is short. ----- Original Message ----- From: David Lum<mailto:david....@nwea.org> To: NT System Admin Issues<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 10:09 AM Subject: RE: List Statistics - It’s only a true flame war if someone gets thrown off the list :) Dave From: Don Ely [mailto:don....@gmail.com<mailto:don....@gmail.com>] Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 7:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: List Statistics - You call todays iterations "flame wars"? On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 5:32 AM, Sherry Abercrombie <saber...@gmail.com<mailto:saber...@gmail.com>> wrote: And the flame wars are not common now??? On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:22 AM, Don Ely <don....@gmail.com<mailto:don....@gmail.com>> wrote: Those were the good ol days where flame wars were common place... hehehehehehe On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Steven M. Caesare <scaes...@caesare.com<mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>> wrote: Indeed! From: Don Ely [mailto:don....@gmail.com<mailto:don....@gmail.com>] Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: List Statistics - Me too!!! On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Steven M. Caesare <scaes...@caesare.com<mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>> wrote: Hehe… ASB, Kelly, ME, Bart, John Harris, DaveR, Les, Martin, Dean, and yours truly(sc)…along with a number of others were here back in the day. ASB started Admin_Misc not too long after. I spoke with him today, as a matter of fact. -sc From: Len Hammond [mailto:lenhammo...@gmail.com<mailto:lenhammo...@gmail.com>] Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 10:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: List Statistics - While I never had a conversation with Bob, I do remember the name and his many posts. As well as many others, both Michael's, Andrew Baker, Sherry Abercrombie and Erik Goldoff are in my older memories. I have a bunch of e-mails archived in Lotus notes (nothing to get at them with anymore) and I left that job with Notes in 2000 and it seems as I had been a part of the list for 2 or 3 years by then. I took 2 or 3 years away from the list and not long after I came back ASB quit posting. I followed an old link recently and Andrew's Ultra Tech II web site is still active. The oldest post in this current archive is from 2004 and all in a g-mail account - I still search things there often. There are a bunch of folks on this list from whom I have learned many things. It's been a great 10 years. Thanks for the memories. Len Hammond CSI:Hartland lenhamm...@gmail.com<mailto:lenhamm...@gmail.com> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Blackman, Woody <wblack...@occ.cccd.edu<mailto:wblack...@occ.cccd.edu>> wrote: I remember Bob... from the old nt-list Subject: Re: SID creation From: Bob Jiantonio <b...@sunbelt-software.com<mailto:b...@sunbelt-software.com>> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:35:48 -0500 X-Message-Number: 28 In Windows NT, a SID (security identifier) is a unique number that the installation of Windows NT Workstation or Server generates, using a randomizer based on three seeds: the name of the computer the time the computer account (not the user account) was created the duration of the thread that created the computer account Join the 38,000 subscribers who receive the latest NT info by subscribing to NTools Newsletter - Its free! - http://www.ntsoftdist.com/scripts/lyris.pl?join=nt-list /------------------------------------------------------------------\ | "...the best WinNT utilities, from one source, | | with mainframe quality tech support" | |------------------------------------------------------------------| | Sunbelt Software -- http://www.sunbelt-software.com<http://www.sunbelt-software.com/> | | Bob Jiantonio -- mailto:b...@sunbelt-software.com<mailto:b...@sunbelt-software.com> | 101 N. Garden Ave. -- Phone: 800-688-8404 ext.211 | | Suite 230 -- Fax: 813-562-5199 | | Clearwater -- Int. 1-813-562-0101 ext.211 | | Florida 34640 -- Tech Support: 800-688-8404 ext.214 | -------------------------------------------------------------------- But the oldest post in my archive goes to Steven M Caesare: Subject: RE: ntfs and fat partitions From: "Caesare, Steven" <scaes...@caesare.com<mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:05:30 -0800 X-Message-Number: 1 Comments inline... <edited to fit your screen, run time and for content> -----Original Message----- From: Peter van Houten [mailto:peter...@gmail.com<mailto:peter...@gmail.com>] Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 3:40 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: List Statistics - WAS: Re: What does it take to get off this mailing list? The earliest message I have archived [from NTSYSADMIN] is from Bob Jiantonio and is listed below. I happened to keep it for the embedded .vbs {which is snipped out for brevity]. 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