+1 on the EMC, stellar reliability although there was a steep learning curve on 
the fiber management side. ISCI is definitly easier IMHO.
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
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________________________________
From: Mayo, Bill
To: NT System Admin Issues
Sent: Fri Oct 09 13:30:58 2009
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

+1

My semi-sarcastic thought when I read the quote below (ask what they think 
about StoneFly) was that the answer would be, "Who?"  EMC, in particular, are 
in the big leagues.  I've never heard any other vendor say that their hardware 
wasn't up to snuff.  The knocks are generally "too expensive" and "too 
complicated".  As someone has mentioned before (in regards to the rebranded 
Dell versions), EMC will negotiate on price.  As for the "too complicated", if 
you can't figure out how to use it, you probably don't need to be administering 
the SAN anyway.

My personal opinion is that when you are putting all your storage eggs in one 
basket, you want to be sure that the hardware is reliable and that the support 
is top notch.  In my experience, that is definitely the case with EMC.

________________________________
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 12:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

Ive never even heard of them.

From: Rene de Haas [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 9:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: NAS/SAN

Maybe ask the other guys (Lefthand, Dell, ...) what they think about StoneFly.
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 6:01 PM, <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
wrote:
They all like to point out the deficiencies of their competitors. Just tell him 
to focus on his products values and get a demo or at least a walk-through.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

________________________________
From: "John Aldrich" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:56:01 -0400
To: NT System Admin 
Issues<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

Thanks. That sort of talk made me suspicious that he was blowing smoke, but it 
seems like a good product, nonetheless, and if it comes in cheaper than the 
���big bo����� I may go with that, especially since ASB recommends ���em.����

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From: Sean Martin [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 11:52 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: NAS/SAN

That sounds like nonsense to me.

Have you looked into Dell/EMCs CX4-120? Its the entry level CX unit that 
provides both fiber channel and iscsi connectivity via "UltraFlex I/O Modules". 
It supports 4GB/s and 8GB/s Fiber Channel and 1 GB/s and 10GB/s iSCSI.

-Sean
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:39 AM, John Aldrich 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Ok, I just got off the phone with a StoneFly sales engine�����He had some 
interesting things to say about EMC/Dell/Equallogic/NetApp and LSI. I need some 
fact-checking from people who know more than I about this sort of thing��� he 
said that those are ���dum������ ISCSI devices that c�����t handle a lot of 
connections at once and that I ought to buy their product because that hardware 
can handle a lot more connections and a lot higher throughput than the 
competition.

Was he just blowing smoke up my rear or is that stuff true?

Thanks!
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