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From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 2:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Um, WTF? I have been there done that also, for a company of 100 or so employees. We hosted parts of a major vendors website (it's amazing how often that happens BTW) and had to have very reliable and redundant communications and server systems. Tim From: Don Ely [mailto:don....@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 12:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Um, WTF? Not always. I did some work a few years back for a company with multiple T1's, multiple providers and they were only a 1 site, 100 user company. Their business model dictated that they needed multiple paths... On a 15 site dual MPLS WAN, I run BGP as well. It just depends on the needs. On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Michael B. Smith <mich...@smithcons.com<mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>> wrote: But big boys, right? Not your average SMORG. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com<http://theessentialexchange.com/> From: Don Ely [mailto:don....@gmail.com<mailto:don....@gmail.com>] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 1:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Um, WTF? To be fair, BGP is not just for ISP's... I've run BGP in quite a few companies depending on the needs... On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Bill Humphries <nt...@hedgedigger.com<mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com>> wrote: yeah mainline courses like network+ do not get into ISP level routing tech. Bill Michael B. Smith wrote: I've never seen BGP covered in networking courses. Other than advanced Cisco courses. OSPF and RIP and IGRP - common interior protocols, yes; but not BGP. You must attend a better grade of schooling than I did. :) Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com<http://theessentialexchange.com/> From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Um, WTF? Any networking course should cover BGP. When I did my networking subjects, we have to cover OSPF, RIP, BGP etc. Cheers Ken From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, 19 November 2010 12:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Um, WTF? If you've never worked for an ISP, or acquired a CCNP (or higher), or worked for a telecommunications company - it's unlikely that you would've run into BGP or ASNs. We all have our areas of expertise. Don't ask me to set up KMS, for example (to reference another ongoing thread on this mailing list). I know zero about it. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com<http://theessentialexchange.com/> From: David Lum [mailto:david....@nwea.org] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:33 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Um, WTF? Ah. I have heard that term I just didn't connect it. Why is it the more I learn the more ignorant I feel? Some days I actually think I do know a lot and then something like this pops up and I'm back to "eh, I'm just a n00b..." From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 8:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Um, WTF? Border Gateway Protocol Z Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Network Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.org<mailto:Email:ezi...@lifespan.org> Cell:401-639-3505 From: David Lum [mailto:david....@nwea.org] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Um, WTF? Ok so I'm behind the curve. 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