Please god don't use Backup Exec if you have an environment that you want to be 
at all reliable. Mysterious problems with backups hanging forever in queue once 
you hit 9TB or so on your dedup folder, plus size limits and the limit of one 
dedup folder per media server which, as it turns out, can never be moved to 
another media server ever. (Though apparently DoubleTake replication has worked 
to move mine off of an ailing backup server.) Also, RAM hungry – but so is any 
dedup software.

We're now working on a switch to Commvault. Biggest downside there seems to be 
cost but it's looking like one of those "get what you pay for" kind of things. 
I was also very impressed with the Exagrid appliances too – from what I 
remember you just dump a full uncompressed backup to their landing area and 
they take care of all the compression/dedup for you. The College of Human 
Medicine has several of them. Once again, major limitation there is cost.

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Jack Kramer
Computer Systems Specialist
University Relations, Michigan State University
w: 517-884-1231 / c: 248-635-4955

From: Paul Hutchings 
<paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk<mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk>>
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
<ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 09:49:35 -0500
To: NT System Admin Issues 
<ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Subject: RE: Backups/deduplication

Have a look at Commvault or Backup Exec, possibly NetBackup too.  They will all 
do dedupe to disk within software – you might find it offers a lot more 
flexibility at a lower cost than a hardware appliance, plus lower growth costs.
We use Commvault, ask away but in two words, it’s good.
Paul
From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org]
Sent: 01 March 2011 14:45
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backups/deduplication

Arcserve.  I can change though since we are no longer under subscription 
renewal.

>>> "Paul Hutchings" 
>>> <paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk<mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk>> 3/1/2011 9:35 
>>> AM >>>
What backup software are you using?
From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org]
Sent: 01 March 2011 14:32
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backups/deduplication

Disclaimer:  I know, I know, it's been on the list before.  I checked the 
archives and didn't see what I really need from you folks.

I'm in the market for a deduplication device.  My LTO changer died recently, so 
this is a good time to change.  I've been looking at the following:

- Barracuda Backup 890, optional "cloud" storage can be purchased
- EMC DD610
- Exagrid EX 3000/4000
- Overland SnapSAN
- HP Storageworks

Comments on the above?  I want to do the usual:  point my backup software to 
it, let it run.  I will eventually need a second unit so I can replicate to a 
second location, so replication software/technology is needed.

We have typical data here:  files, e-mail (not Exchange, so file-system only), 
databases, XenServer VM images, etc.  Currently running about 2 - 3 T per full 
backup.  We retain data for one year before overwrite.

Any favorites, any to avoid?

Tom


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