Interesting. I could well be wrong, but I wouldn't typically think of geese
departing farm fields as doing so relatively uniformly on a broad circular
front. Some groundtruthing might be worthwhile...

Benjamin
On Fri, Dec 25, 2015 at 10:20 AM David Nicosia <daven102...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> thanks. I didn't think of geese. we often see swallows do this but it
> makes sense.
>
> On Fri, Dec 25, 2015 at 8:25 AM, John Kent <jwk...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>
>> That is geese you're seeing. Large numbers of them roost in farm fields
>> there at this time of year, and I have seen the same thing on radar in
>> December before. It's probably mostly Canadas, but sometimes there are also
>> lots of Snow Geese there.
>>
>> John Kent
>> Selkirk, NY
>>
>> On Dec 25, 2015, at 8:12 AM, David Nicosia <daven102...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I noticed on the Albany National Weather Service radar between 617 am and
>> 654 am Christmas morning a circular pattern on radar like swallow morning
>> take off patterns we see in the late summer. This pattern was seen
>> originating from Valtie, NY... 42.41N and 73.68W (roughly). Below are 5
>> radar images that I grabbed which show this.
>>
>>  https://www.flickr.com/photos/davenicosia/albums/72157662199366610
>>
>> The question is...are these radar echoes even birds or maybe insects??
>> And, if so, what specie of bird (if they are birds)? I would say probably
>> starlings???  They couldn't be tree swallows since they should be long
>> gone.  Anyway, I have never seen this in the winter before.  Any thoughts
>> on this please share.
>>
>> Merry Christmas to all!!!!
>>
>> David Nicosia
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