Robert,

After reading everything I can in the last few days.. I have a couple questions which I hope you can answer honestly.

This announcement on the heals of a massive change in the freenas community make me wonder if there is any "backroom" pressure coming to companies supporting zfs?

The other is ... Is your hosted environment divesting from omnios? If so what os are you going to?

As a consultant and supporter of all things openzfs just want to know where the best safest places for my customers.

And one short comment.. I have have been watching following you guys for awhile now, and I never knew your hope or wish was for the community to pick up omnios. This surprises me. I am sure they would have if they had known.

Thanks for everything you have done for this community

Linda K


On 4/23/17 3:13 PM, Robert Treat wrote:
Security updates are a little bit trickier than just pulling in
general upstream changes, but I think the ideal scenario would be to
form a group of interested people around the "secur...@omnios.org"
label which would collaborate on fielding and producing security fixes
for the project. Given we also have critical production systems
running OmniOS (more than most I suspect), we will need to deal with
security and bug fixes regardless, so we're happy to use those efforts
to bootstrap things.

Robert Treat

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Paul B. Henson <hen...@acm.org> wrote:
As both a home hobbyist user of OmniOS and a paid support user of OmniOS at
my day job, I'd first like to thank you guys for putting together a great
operating system that has served me well over the years and I hope will
continue to do so.

However, I would like to clarify your stance when you say you are
"suspending active development" and that r151022 will be the "final
release". Per your historical release cycle:

https://omnios.omniti.com/wiki.php/ReleaseCycle

r151022 was to be an LTS release with security/bug fix support through H1
2020. While there will be no further releases of OmniOS from OmniTI, will
you continue to back port fixes and fix issues in r151022 through that
timeline, or will it be released as is and then be up to the as yet
undeveloped community to do so? We currently have critical production
systems deployed, systems whose deployment was only approved by management
due to the availability of commercial support (the wisdom of such a
perspective we will not discuss), and this sudden development is potentially
going to leave us in quite a pickle. While I certainly can't dictate to you
how to run your business, it would have been much easier on your customers
had you made this announcement with the release of r151022, and coincided
the end of your support offering with the end of life of this last release.
Which also ideally would have provided time for an omnios community to have
developed and started producing their own releases before the last
officially supported omniti version reached sunset.

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: [OmniOS-discuss] The Future of OmniOS

Five years ago, when we first launched OmniOS, we did it out of a
direct need to push forward the OpenSolaris ecosystem that we had
built into the core of several parts of our business. At the time, the
illumos community was still rather new and taking direct control of
our path forward was a solid next step; we had already built many of
the pieces in-house that we needed to produce a complete operating
system distribution, and our experiences with open sourcing software
we worked on had been generally very good.

While we didn't know quite what the reaction would be, there were two
things internally that guided us as long term factors in our decision.
First, as we have done for other open source software, we thought it
made sense to offer commercial support for OmniOS, but there was no
desire to "pivot" OmniTI to be an operating system vendor. We like the
world of building and running high-scale software and infrastructure
and that's where we wanted to stay. Hand in hand with that was the
second idea, that while we felt it was important for us to take the
first initial steps, in the long term we really would prefer that
OmniOS become an open source project maintained by its community
rather than remain as the open source product of a single commercial
entity (think Debian vs Red Hat, if that helps).

Five years later, we are proud to see that this software has been
accepted by a wide group of companies and end users, and we think this
has been a boon for the illumos community, who are the shoulders we
build upon. When you see companies from all sectors and industry, both
small and some orders of magnitude larger, using the technology you
put forward to build even further; well, it's great to have an impact.

However, even with the success we have had, there is one area we have
failed to make progress on, which is the goal of making OmniOS
community operated. There are many factors why this hasn't happened,
but ultimately in five years of both ups and downs within OmniTI, I am
left to conclude that if we are ever to change the nature of OmniOS,
we need to take a radical approach.

Therefore, going forward, while some of our staff may continue
contributing, OmniTI will be suspending active development of OmniOS.
Our next release, currently in beta, will become the final release
from OmniTI. We are currently going through steps to remove any build
dependencies on OmniTI or its infrastructure, and we've made some
steps towards determining what potential resources we currently
control which could be turned over to an open source community should
one emerge; for example, we can continue running OmniOS mailing lists
from OmniTI, but would eventually like to see those transitioned to
something operated by the community itself.

To be clear, our goal is not to abandon OmniOS, but to divest OmniTI
from the open source project in order to spur others to participate
more. We still run quite a bit of infrastructure on OmniOS and expect
to continue contributing, but the current model does not work for
OmniTI nor do we believe it is healthy for the OmniOS community as a
whole. Could this mean the end of OmniOS? We can't guarantee it won't.
For that matter, recent user data shows that a majority of the
community still uses OmniOS primarily as a storage solution, not a
platform for high-scale web computing (which was our original intent),
so even if a community does form, it could move the project in a
direction that doesn't align with our needs. If that happens, we feel
comfortable knowing there are several other strong illumos based
options available. In the end, while this rip-the-band-aid-off
approach is not without risk, it is one we feel is necessary.

We hope that most folks will respond to this not with fear but with
the understanding that there is now an opportunity to build a broader,
stronger community, and we look forward to working with others to make
that a reality.


Robert Treat
CEO
https://omniti.com
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