I was able to get 1.8.2 to compile for RHEL 8 x86_64  but "kinit" seems to
be missing. :(

On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 2:23 PM Dave Botsch <bot...@cnf.cornell.edu> wrote:

> Has anyone gotten openafs to compile under RHEL8 beta? I had tried
> previously and no gold. If so, one could then test and again file a bug
> report with RedHat saying "systemd --user breaks stuff" and here's the
> business case.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Sun, Dec 09, 2018 at 10:34:40AM +0100, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
> > Am Samstag, den 08.12.2018, 14:08 -0500 schrieb Jeffrey Altman:
> > > On 12/8/2018 5:21 AM, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
> > > > Dirk Heinrichs:
> > > >
> > > > > Did a quick test (on Debian, btw., which already ships kafs) and
> > > > > it
> > > > > works fine.
> > > >
> > > > While getting tokens at login work with this setup, things start to
> > > > fail
> > > > once the users $HOME is set to be in /afs. While simple scenarios
> > > > like
> > > > pure shell/console logins work, graphical desktop environments have
> > > > lots
> > > > of problems. XFCE4 doesn't even start, Plasma works to some degree
> > > > after
> > > > presenting lots of error dialogs to the user.
> > >
> > > As Harald indicated, "systemd --user" services are a problem not just
> > > for kafs but for openafs as well.
> >
> > But that's not the problem here. Both work fine with the OpenAFS
> > client.
> >
> > >   There has been discussions on this
> > > mailing list of the issues dating back more than a year.
> >
> > I know. I've been involved ;-)
> >
> > >   In summary,
> > > "systemd --user" services are incompatible with "session keyrings"
> > > which
> > > are used to represent AFS Process Authentication Groups.
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > > You have no indicated which kernel version you are using nor am I
> > > aware
> > > of the options used to build AF_RXRPC and KAFS on Debian.  The Linux
> > > kernel versions that are recommended are 4.19 with a couple of back
> > > port
> > > patches from the forthcoming 4.20 and the 4.20 release candidate
> > > series.
> >
> > Ah, OK. Debian buster is still on 4.18. Will give it another try once
> > 4.20 is out...
> >
> > > Regardless, it would be useful for you to file bug reports with the
> > > Linux distribution describing the issues you are experiencing.
> > >
> > > Debian: https://wiki.debian.org/reportbug
> >
> > Yep, know this.
> >
> > > Fedora: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugs_and_feature_requests
> > >
> > > > Seems there's still some work to do until this becomes an
> > > > alternative
> > > > for the standard OpenAFS client.
> > >
> > > All software including OpenAFS has work to do.
> >
> > Sure. But the OpenAFS client is mature and just works (except for the
> > systemd --user thing, which isn't OpenAFS' fault).
> >
> > >   The kafs to-do list of known work items is here:
> > >
> > >  https://www.infradead.org/~dhowells/kafs/todo.html
> > >
> > > > So I wonder why RH customers would want that?
> > >
> > > Obviously, no one wants bugs, but at the same time this community
> > > does want:
> > >
> > >  1. A solution to "systemd --user" service compatibility with AFS.
> >
> > ACK.
> >
> > >     The required changes are going to require Linux distribution
> > >     intervention because systemd is integrated with differences
> > >     to each distribution.  At the moment there is no interest among
> > >     the systemd developers to work to fix a behavior they consider
> > >     to be a bug in OpenAFS, an out of tree file system.
> >
> > So they need to understand it's a problem with an in-tree fs as well? I
> > see...
> >
> > >  2. The RHEL AFS user community needs an end to the repeated breakage
> > >     of /afs access following each RHEL dot release.  How many times
> > >     has getcwd() broken because RHEL kernels updates preserve the API
> > >     between releases but do not preserve the ABI.  While this permits
> > >     third party kernel modules to load it does not ensure that they
> > >     will do the right thing.  If the community is lucky the symptoms
> > >     are visible.  If unlucky, the symptoms are hidden until someone
> > >     reports silent data corruption.
> >
> > As a Debian user I didn't have these kind of problems in the past
> > *HINT* :-) But, OTOH, mine is just a small home setup.
> >
> > > The need for an in-tree Linux AFS client extends to all Linux
> > > distributions not just Red Hat.  Any OpenAFS Linux developer can
> > > attest
> > > to the extensive effort that must be expended to maintain
> > > compatibility
> > > with the mainline Linux kernel.  Then multiply that effort by all of
> > > the
> > > Linux distributions that ship modified kernels such as RHEL, SuSE,
> > > Ubuntu, Oracle, ....
> >
> > ACK
> >
> > Bye...
> >
> >       Dirk
> >
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