Could we move this conversation closer towards the subject of OpenSim development please?
Regards, dahlia On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Mark Malewski <mark.malew...@gmail.com>wrote: > > *> The scourge here in the US are the "patent whores" who make * > *>a business model of doing little more than patenting as many * > *>ideas as they can and then sit and wait for someone else* > *> to implement an idea and then slam them with a lawsuit for * > *> "intellectual property rights infringement." * > > Yep, the "DivX, Inc." folks are nothing but a team of lawyers, that sit > around attempting to steal/use/trademark the "DivX" name (which was used > decades earlier and even used by Circuit City, and others (with "DivX" DVD > players, etc. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIVX_(Digital_Video_Express) > > Then some slick lawyers decided to try and create a new "DivX, Inc." > company, and then attempted to trademark the name (quietly) and then now > they just sit around suing anyone that uses the word "DIVX" and sue any > hardware or CE manufacturer that refers to a "DIVX" dvd player, or even any > type of OpenDivX or XVID (based on OpenDivx) codec. > > So those clown lawyers just sit around suing (and sending out threatening > letters) all day and that's how they make their money. Seems to be a very > profitable business, just suing people (and charging "royalties" just to use > the word "DivX". > > I'd really like to see a legal challenge against them, just to see them end > up on their heads and watch them lose any rights to the actual DIVX name. > > Just because they have deep pockets, and paid a large sum of money to > acquire the "DIVX.COM" website, doesn't mean they were the first to use > the word (or name) "DIVX". > > But this is how the system works, and that's how they make their money. > Just suing people. > > They used their deep pockets to "create a story" about some kid they found > that was willing to claim to be some hacker, that had used the word "Divx" > on his pirated/hacked/illegal code (that was actually Microsoft's code) and > this is their concept behind their trademark claims. (Even though the divx > name was widely used by hackers, and others in the community that referred > to "divx" as being ripped movies done by pirates) and that name was being > used for almost 8-12 years prior to this silly hacker clown (who the rich > lawyers claim that they "purchased" the rights to use the name from). What > a bunch of nonsense. It's just a bunch of deep pocketed lawyers that tried > to create a "trademark" out of a common word/name, that everyone uses, just > so they can sue people. > > As far as products, they just use their deep pockets, and buy out some > small tiny company (that designs some type of codec) and then they call it > their own product. It's such a joke. DIVX isn't even a codec, it's simply > an open source project (OpenDivx) that is now defunct, and turned into the > "XVID" project. The DIVX lawyers just make all their money from suing > others, and charging royalty fees to use the "DIVX" name (which really isn't > even theirs to begin with). That's their business model, suing others, and > charging to use a name that isn't even theirs. > > *> It baffles me how anyone would allow such lawsuits to make * > *> their way through the system.* > > The judges and politicians are just as crooked. Here in Chicago, we have > Senate seats going up for sale to the highest bidder. ;-) > > Both of our last 2 governors are in prison, and our mayor is a mob boss > that hands out political favors to the unions in exchange for extra votes > (vote early, vote often, vote 2 or 3 times if you wish...). Typical Chicago > Politics. No name, no drivers license? Are you an illegal?Have you been > deceased for 12 years? Your vote still gets counted. Over 15-20% of the > deceased in Chicago still vote each year. The whole system just makes you > laugh. > > *> I can sue a fast food chain if my coffee is too hot. Maybe * > *> that's why they now offer "iced coffee" ?* > > Well that's why you have the words "CAUTION HOT" on the lid and on the cup > now. That's nothing, what about the lady who sued because she was "burnt" > by a "hot pickle"? > > The silly nonsense we have in this country. It's out of control. > > If you don't have the common sense to understand that coffee is hot, then > you're nearly too stupid to be human. What ever happened to "Darwinism"? > What happened to that failed theory? Weren't the stupid ones supposed to > die off or something? Why does it seem like they always end up getting > elected to public office, or end up leading this country? Or becoming a > governor or mayor? > > *> her defense was that her mother was not a native English * > *> speaker* > > Yeah, she settled for a half a million, and then they had to put the words > "CAUTION: HOT" in spanish on the lids now too! > > Oye, what a country. It just amazes me. I can't believe the nonsense with > our judicial system. The whole patent system really needs to be abolished > though. > > The Chinese are reverse engineering everything they can get their hands on > (and laughing at us) and it seems to be working out VERY well for them. The > only people hurt or affected by silly U.S. patents are the Americans and the > U.S. businesses. > > Supposed we need to move to India or China, just to get away from this > whole mess. Those outside the U.S. don't seem to care about U.S. laws, and > they don't have to deal with (or care about) the silly nonsense of the U.S. > patent and court system. The whole system is a circus. It needs to be > abolished and done away with. 5 year maximum on patents (and maybe we also > need 4 year rotating term limits on politicians and judges). That might > help fix some of the corruption problems we have. Plus stop ALL campaign > contributions from special interest groups and large corporations. I can't > pay off a police officer who enforces the law (because that would be > considered "illegal"), but it's perfectly ok for large corporations to use > campaign contributions to bribe and pay off the politicians that CREATE the > laws? I guess that makes a lot of sense. > > The whole patent system is messed up. Give them 5 year maximums on patents > (on physical inventions that you can touch and hold), and after that it > becomes public domain. Abolish the DMCA completely. Source code is still > protected under copyright, enuff said. :-) > > Mark > > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 3:05 AM, Len Brown <lenwbr...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> The scourge here in the US are the "patent whores" who make a business >> model of doing little more than patenting as many ideas as they can and then >> sit and wait for someone else to implement an idea and then slam them with a >> lawsuit for "intellectual property rights infringement." It baffles me how >> anyone would allow such lawsuits to make their way through the system. >> >> But then again, we are talking about a country where I can sue a fast food >> chain if my coffee is too hot. Maybe that's why they now offer "iced >> coffee" ? >> >> Even if the coffee cup has posted that its contents are hot there's >> someone ready to sue. A while back I saw on the news where a woman sued >> because her mother "burned" her lip from hot coffee purchased at a fast food >> drive-through window and her defense was that her mother was not a native >> English speaker, and thus could not understand the message "Caution: >> Contents May Be Hot" >> >> Guess what? She was awarded half a million $. >> >> On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 2:28 AM, Tedd Hansen <t...@nimbustech.no> wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> >>> >>> Actually the patent system should work fine and encourage innovation. It >>> **should** have a block against patenting things that are a natural >>> evolution of existing technology. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sadly, as with all things, the US justice system seems to allow any party >>> to sue any part for anything and I think that has rubbed off on patenting >>> (imho). Now companies are patenting everything just to avoid getting sued. >>> We see examples of this in IBM, Microsoft, etc where they patent it just to >>> release it to everyone. (Anyone remember the MS-patent for “Dynamic loading >>> and binding of modules” I found researching for script engine? ;) ) >>> >>> >>> >>> Doing some researching for a patent here in Norway a few years back I >>> found that it was near impossible (here) to get a patent unless what you >>> made was revolutionary new. Anything that would be considered the next step >>> was not enough for a patent. >>> >>> >>> >>> Br, >>> >>> Tedd >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de [mailto: >>> opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de] *On Behalf Of *Mark Malewski >>> *Sent:* 12. februar 2010 06:01 >>> >>> *To:* opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de >>> *Subject:* Re: [Opensim-dev] How Was OpenSim "Born"? >>> >>> >>> >>> *> I honestly believe that the patent system, by its very nature, * >>> >>> *> is the worst thing ever when it comes to stifling innovation* >>> >>> *> and technological advancement.* >>> >>> >>> >>> Agreed. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Opensim-dev mailing list >>> Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de >>> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Opensim-dev mailing list >> Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de >> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Opensim-dev mailing list > Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev > >
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