Vipul,

I know we discussed this briefly in the Wednesday meeting but I still have a 
few questions.   I am not bought in to the idea that we do not need to maintain 
the records of saved logs.   I agree that we do not need to enable users to 
download and manipulate the logs themselves via Trove ( that can be left to 
Swift), but at a minimum, I believe that the system will still need to maintain 
a mapping of where the logs are stored in swift.  This is a simple addition to 
the list of available logs per datastore (an additional field of its swift 
location – a location exists, you know the log has been saved).  If we do not 
do this, how then does the user know where to find the logs they have saved or 
if they even exist in Swift without searching manually?  It may be that this is 
covered, but I don't see this represented in the BP.  Is the assumption that it 
is some known path?  I would expect to see the Swift location retuned on a GET 
of the available logs types for a specific instance (there is currently only a 
top-level GET for logs available per datastore type).

I am also assuming in this case, and per the BP, that If the user does not have 
the ability to select the storage location in Swift of if this is controlled 
exclusively by the deployer.  And that you would only allow one occurrence of 
the log, per datastore / instance and that the behavior of writing a log more 
than once to the same location is that it will overwrite / append, but it is 
not detailed in the BP.

Thanks,
Daniel
From: Vipul Sabhaya <vip...@gmail.com<mailto:vip...@gmail.com>>
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Date: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:14 AM
To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" 
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Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] Delivering datastore logs to customers

Yep agreed, this is a great idea.

We really only need two API calls to get this going:
- List available logs to ‘save’
- Save a log (to swift)

Some additional points to consider:
- We don’t need to create a record of every Log ‘saved’ in Trove.  These 
entries, treated as a Trove resource aren’t useful, since you don’t actually 
manipulate that resource.
- Deletes of Logs shouldn’t be part of the Trove API, if the user wants to 
delete them, just use Swift.
- A deployer should be able to choose which logs can be ‘saved’ by their users


On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Michael Basnight 
<mbasni...@gmail.com<mailto:mbasni...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I think this is a good idea and I support it. In todays meeting [1] there were 
some questions, and I encourage them to get brought up here. My only question 
is in regard to the "tail" of a file we discussed in irc. After talking about 
it w/ other trovesters, I think it doesnt make sense to tail the log for most 
datstores. I cant imagine finding anything useful in say, a java, applications 
last 100 lines (especially if a stack trace was present). But I dont want to 
derail, so lets try to focus on the "deliver to swift" first option.

[1] 
http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2013/trove.2013-12-18-18.13.log.txt

On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 5:24 AM, Denis Makogon 
<dmako...@mirantis.com<mailto:dmako...@mirantis.com>> wrote:

    Greetings, OpenStack DBaaS community.


    I'd like to start discussion around a new feature in Trove. The feature I 
would like to propose covers manipulating  database log files.


    Main idea. Give user an ability to retrieve database log file for any 
purposes.

    Goals to achieve. Suppose we have an application (binary application, 
without source code) which requires a DB connection to perform data 
manipulations and a user would like to perform development, debbuging of an 
application, also logs would be useful for audit process. Trove itself provides 
access only for CRUD operations inside of database, so the user cannot access 
the instance directly and analyze its log files. Therefore, Trove should be 
able to provide ways to allow a user to download the database log for analysis.


    Log manipulations are designed to let user perform log investigations. 
Since Trove is a PaaS - level project, its user cannot interact with the 
compute instance directly, only with database through the provided API 
(database operations).

I would like to propose the following API operations:

  1.  Create DBLog entries.

  2.  Delete DBLog entries.

  3.  List DBLog entries.

Possible API, models, server, and guest configurations are described at wiki 
page. [1]

[1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TroveDBInstanceLogOperation

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