On 08/14/2014 02:48 PM, Dugger, Donald D wrote:
My experience with mics, no matter how good, In conference rooms is
not good. You are always working hard to hear the soft spoken person
who is drowned by the background noise. It’s always a strain and I
don’t want to even think about doing it for a full 8 hrs. It’s better
than nothing so I agree, we need to provide some sort of remote
conferencing at meetups but nothing compares with actually being there.
I’m not a core so I’m speaking from the outside but I think requiring
attendance at the summits (absence requires a note from your parent
Jwhile strongly encouraging attendance at mid-cycle meetups seems
reasonable.
I think expecting summit attendance, rather than requiring, is a better
way to say it, but otherwise I agree that this seems reasonable.
PS: In re companies spending millions on OpenStack so travel to f2f
events should be a drop in the bucket. It doesn’t always work that
way with the finance department, money comes out of different buckets
and the travel bucket `always` dries up first.
--
Don Dugger
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*From:*Joe Gordon [mailto:joe.gord...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 13, 2014 10:48 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Michael Still <mi...@stillhq.com
<mailto:mi...@stillhq.com>> wrote:
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Jay Pipes <jaypi...@gmail.com
<mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Just wanted to quickly weigh in with my thoughts on this
important topic. I
> very much valued the face-to-face interaction that came from the
mid-cycle
> meetup in Beaverton (it was the only one I've ever been to).
>
> That said, I do not believe it should be a requirement that
cores make it to
> the face-to-face meetings in-person. A number of folks have
brought up very
> valid concerns about personal/family time, travel costs and burnout.
I'm not proposing they be a requirement. I am proposing that they be
strongly encouraged.
> I believe that the issue raised about furthering the divide
between core and
> non-core folks is actually the biggest reason I don't support a
mandate to
> have cores at the face-to-face meetings, and I think we should
make our best
> efforts to support quality virtual meetings that can be done on
a more
> frequent basis than the face-to-face meetings that would be
optional.
I am all for online meetings, but we don't have a practical way to do
them at the moment apart from IRC. Until someone has a concrete
proposal that's been shown to work, I feel its a straw man argument.
What about making it easier for remote people to participate at the
mid-cycle meetups? Set up some microphones and a Google hangout? At
least that way attending the mid-cycle is not all or nothing.
We did something like this last cycle (IIRC we didn't have enough
mics) and it worked pretty well.
Michael
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Rackspace Australia
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