Saira,

Excellent feedback. I'll forward it to Jacob Christfort and Martin Graf.

Martin, by the way, sent me a response to your posting (Jacob forwarded my message to Martin). See below.

Best regards,

Mogens

Mogens,
 
In deed, Oracle9i Lite has over 10'000 posted messages on OTN, which makes it #3 of all Oracle Products. This outstanding number of messages produces a lot of work for us, which is why you might experience slower than expected turn around for certain postings. We apologize for the delay but you can rest assured that we do everything in our power to resolve your issues.
 
It looks like data does not get applied to the Oracle Lite (PROCESSING) database. Client changes are sent to the Mobile Server (SENDING). The client also received data from the server (RECEIVING). It might be that replication never finishes (commits) the transaction (since it hangs), which is why MGP might not pick up the changes and apply them to the Oracle database.
 
COMPOSING client data
SENDING client data to the Mobile Server
RECEIVING data from the server
PROCESSING (apply) data to the client database
 
The PK change in one of your application table might actually be the culprit. Please follow the procedure below and let me know if you have further questions.
 
1. Drop the application from Control Center
2. Drop the client database(s)
3. Publish the application into Mobile Server
4. Provision the application
5. Execute sync
 
We recommend to use Oracle9i Lite 5.0.2 release with 5.0.2.3.0 Windows patch (the latest on Windows).
 
-- martin



Saira Somani wrote:
Mogens,

Thank you kindly for forwarding my questions to the head honcho. I would
be extremely pleased if he responded but not offended if he didn't.

Funny enough, we are currently using Lite with Intermec 700 handhelds
(StrongARM chipset) running Pocket PC (Windows CE) in hospitals to
manage supply carts. Interesting business.

So since I have inherited administration of this software, I not an
expert yet, but quickly finding out where documentation and logging is
sparse. I find that it is quite difficult to figure out where a problem
has occurred. Take for example the MSYNC process on the client which
synchronizes with the repository on the 8i server. Every time the client
syncs, the client tells me it is successful, even though it isn't.
Secondly, there is processing that is performed on synchronization - I
know for a fact that there is data to be "processed", yet this client
never fulfills that request to "process" the data and as a result,
changes are not reflected in the repository.

Then take migration. I wanted to upgrade from 5.0.1.X.0 to 5.0.2.X.0 -
and I found out that I cannot even log into the administrative console.
And that would be fine, if there was documentation that told me this is
possible (maybe I missed that PDF, I don't know - too much information,
too little time).

And how about documentation on the tracing. Especially interpretation of
the log/trace files - there is no guideline to explain to me what I can
expect from the logging/tracing (again, maybe it's me for missing that
PDF but I have searched for many months with little success).

I think it is a good product with many bugs and I think it can be used
very effectively if administered/configured optimally. I just think that
there isn't enough expertise out there yet to assist those who have
decided to go with this product. From an administrative standpoint, I
find it difficult to grasp how and where errors are occurring. Even more
difficult is trying to figure out a pattern to the errors. They are
sporadic, inconsistent, and show no symptoms. Alerts for MGP failing are
non-existent - don't know when it will go down and when it does, I can't
explain why. 

Overall, I can see it having success in the right environment and with a
stable release.

Hope this helped but didn't offend any.

Thanks again,
Saira

-----Original Message-----
Nørgaard
Sent: February 6, 2003 1:00 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Saira,

I've forwarded your message to the CTO of Oracle Lite, my old friend 
Jacob Christfort, whom I know from our days at the National Hospital 
Dormitory in Copenhagen, where we had lots of fun, and where many nurses

lived. Those were the days, but sadly we both ended up working with IT. 
If Jacob responds (he's a rather busy guy) I'll forward the responses to

the list.

Can I ask you what you think of Lite in general? I don't see many sites 
using it, but it looks like a cool thing for the right purpose...

Best regards,

Mogens

Saira Somani wrote:

  
Posted 2 messages in Oracle 9i Lite Forum on Metalink. No responses
    
yet.
  
I'm looking to this list for help on either of these issues. Thanks in
advance for your time. Please e-mail me privately
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) if this is not the proper forum for these
issues. Someone out there has to be using this product :-)

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RDBMS Version: 8.1.7.0.0
Operating System and Version: Windows 2000 Server SP3
Error Number (if applicable): 
Product (i.e. SQL*Loader, Import, etc.): Oracle 9i Lite
Product Version: 5.0.1.1

MSYNC - records to process yet PROCESSING does not occur

We have changed records on the client in offline mode and now want to
syncronize with the server. There are records to be processed - yet, in
MSYNC, it goes through COMPOSING, SENDING, RECEIVING but no PROCESSING.
As a result, our records on the server are not updated. MGP is running,
and when we retry, we allow for complete cycles to occur before our
    
next
  
attempt. 

After trying about 20 times (no kidding), the PROCCESSING bar on the
MSYNC screen works. 

This is unacceptable and not to mention unreliable. Please help. Please
also see my previous message on a related issue. Perhaps you can see a
connection, I can't as yet. 

Thanks, 
Saira

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RDBMS Version: 8.1.7.0.0
Operating System and Version: Windows 2000 Server SP3
Error Number (if applicable): 
Product (i.e. SQL*Loader, Import, etc.): Oracle 9i Lite
Product Version: 5.0.1.1

MSYNC sticks on PROCESSING bar

Recently we made a change to a table in our repository in 8i - changed
    
a
  
primary key. After this, the application was republished in Oracle 9i
Lite and all client databases (Pocket PC Strong ARM) were refreshed
(i.e. database was removed from the client and sync'd 3 times before
usage). 

We have noticed that now, after the change, during the MSYNC process,
that status bar hangs on the PROCESSING phase of MSYNC. The only way to
rid this is by warm booting the PDA and trying it multiple times until
it is successful (which sometimes it is and sometimes isn't). However,
even when the PROCESSING bar has not completed until the end, the data
    
>from the PDA is sent but this is unreliable as all the MSYNC processes
  
are not complete. 

This is inefficient. Any suggestions? 

Saira Somani
IT Support/Analyst
Hospital Logistics Inc. 

 

    


  

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