Hello, I will be working on OSCAR again very shortly so the project is not yet completely dead.
My 2 cents, ----- Mail original ----- De: "Mike Kidson" <mkid...@csc.com> À: oscar-users@lists.sourceforge.net Envoyé: Jeudi 14 Juin 2012 11:56:47 Objet: Re: [Oscar-users] Oscar-users Digest, Vol 67, Issue 3 Hi We also gave up with Oscar recently, as it did not seem worth the hassle getting it to work with Scientific Linux (which we wanted to move onto from RH), and the move from a bundled distribution tar ball is a pain if your cluster is not internet facing. For what it may be worth; I found Rock's was easy and reliable to configure, but too restricted in OS versions etc. Xcat was initially a bit of a culture shock, it seems to be intended for large installations (preferably IBM based for console support), that said it looks very scalable, and support (paid) was available from IBM (when I checked - and there's loads of documentation). In the end I opted to use the latest versions of SystemImager, Ganglia, c3 tools Slurm and Munge, etc and just build it all. Usual problems with building Ganglia & rrdtool, but Slurm seems a definite improvement (for us) over SGE. Obviously it's more effort to build a cluster from basic components, but at the end of the day you don't end up trying to fix some bug or restriction in someone else's code. The lack of graphics interface doesn't really bother me as the cluster is fairly static, guess next time I'll have a good look at Warewulf as well. I would like keep in touch of ideas and discussions on this topic, does anyone know of other "lists" that worth joining ? Cheers - Mike From: oscar-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net To: oscar-users@lists.sourceforge.net Date: 14/06/2012 16:04 Subject: Oscar-users Digest, Vol 67, Issue 3 Send Oscar-users mailing list submissions to oscar-users@lists.sourceforge.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oscar-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to oscar-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net You can reach the person managing the list at oscar-users-ow...@lists.sourceforge.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Oscar-users digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Seeking OSCAR replacement (CentOS based preferred) (Nash, Stephen) 2. Re: Seeking OSCAR replacement (CentOS based preferred) (Sam Whiteman) 3. Re: Seeking OSCAR replacement (CentOS based preferred) (A. Jorge Garcia) 4. Re: Seeking OSCAR replacement (CentOS based preferred) (Chuck Ritter) 5. Re: Seeking OSCAR replacement (CentOS based preferred) (Heller, Christopher R) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:59:52 -0400 From: "Nash, Stephen" <stephen.n...@mpi.com> Subject: [Oscar-users] Seeking OSCAR replacement (CentOS based preferred) To: "oscar-users@lists.sourceforge.net" <oscar-users@lists.sourceforge.net> Message-ID: <03f0264eaddca14a9ed93ddef3d99c3a02f17cdff...@exch-mbx03.corp.mpi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello, OK. So it appears that Oscar is very much dead. Does anyone know of any similar solutions which are still active? I have come across two that appear to still be "alive": Rocks and Warewulf. Does anyone know of any others? A lot of the others that I have been aware of in the past (Oscar, Perceus, Caos, etc.) all lead to dead-ends web links or bits that are several years old. Thanks in advance, Steve Nash ________________________________ This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:12:15 -0400 From: "Sam Whiteman" <white...@ipfw.edu> Subject: Re: [Oscar-users] Seeking OSCAR replacement (CentOS based preferred) To: <oscar-users@lists.sourceforge.net> Message-ID: <4fd9aaf0020000e600095...@gwia5.ipfw.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" I've been playing with Clusterllab's Pacemaker et. al. >>> "Nash, Stephen" 06/14/12 9:00 AM >>> <!--/* Font Definitions */@font-face{font-family:"Cambria Math";panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}@font-face{font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}/* Style Definitions */p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal{margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";}a:link, span.MsoHyperlink{mso-style-priority:99;color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed{mso-style-priority:99;color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}span.EmailStyle17{mso-style-type:personal-compose;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext;}.MsoChpDefault{mso-style-type:export-only;}@page WordSection1{size:8.5in 11.0in;margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}div.WordSection1{page:WordSection1;}-->Hello, OK. So it appears that Oscar is very much dead. Does anyone know of any similar solutions which are still active? I have come across two that appear to still be *alive*: Rocks and Warewulf. Does anyone know of any others? A lot of the others that I have been aware of in the past (Oscar, Perceus, Caos, etc.) all lead to dead-ends web links or bits that are several years old. Thanks in advance, Steve Nash This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 10:34:51 -0400 From: "A. Jorge Garcia" <calcp...@aol.com> Subject: Re: [Oscar-users] Seeking OSCAR replacement (CentOS based preferred) To: oscar-users@lists.sourceforge.net, oscar-users@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: <5c7f49cc-89b7-41c6-a1e9-b03f7fbb8...@email.android.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Sam Whiteman <white...@ipfw.edu> wrote: I've been playing with Clusterllab's Pacemaker et. al. >>> "Nash, Stephen" 06/14/12 9:00 AM >>> Hello, OK. So it appears that Oscar is very much dead. Does anyone know of any similar solutions which are still active? I have come across two that appear to still be ?alive?: Rocks and Warewulf. Does anyone know of any others? A lot of the others that I have been aware of in the past (Oscar, Perceus, Caos, etc.) all lead to dead-ends web links or bits that are several years old. Thanks in advance, Steve Nash _____________________________________________ This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. I don't use oscar, but you may be interested in the pelicanhpc or bccd projects? Sincerely, A. Jorge Garcia Applied Math and CS http://shadowfaxrant.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/calcpage2009 -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:04:12 -0400 From: Chuck Ritter <cfr...@psu.edu> Subject: Re: [Oscar-users] Seeking OSCAR replacement (CentOS based preferred) To: oscar-users@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: <cacxzqovrhku5k4fzifzzhccj8mopz+yqy1hvckvjhkcg_gv...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 xcat (IBM participates). I have not used it myself. http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/software/xcat/index.html >> >> OK. So it appears that Oscar is very much dead. Does anyone know of any >> >> similar solutions which are still active? ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 15:05:18 +0000 From: "Heller, Christopher R" <christopher.r.hel...@intel.com> Subject: Re: [Oscar-users] Seeking OSCAR replacement (CentOS based preferred) To: "oscar-users@lists.sourceforge.net" <oscar-users@lists.sourceforge.net> Message-ID: <a8e42308e82ee64584a7ec1b452ea2db1e5e0...@fmsmsx108.amr.corp.intel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" It really depends on what you are using it for. I've been closely following and contributing to Warewulf - http://warewulf.lbl.gov/trac since early this year, and LBL really has resurrected the project. It still isn't for the faint of heart as there are quite a few manual steps needed to get a cluster up and running, but it seems that they are trying to form a community to help them identify and work through the gaps and such and help with documentation. They have a new release, version 3.2 releasing (should be within a week) that fixes all the old broken issues with Warewulf and adds some new features. Again, it isn't nearly as simple as ROCKS to install and deploy yet, but I feel that with enough help, this is possible. Don't get me wrong, I like ROCKS for simple installations (and if the hardware is older), but there are often significant delays in supporting new RHEL/CentOS versions (which makes it difficult/impossible most of the time to recommend ROCKS for folks buying new hardware), plus the fact that you are tied to those distros vs Warewulf which is a more flexible framework. CAOS (the OS) and Perceus (from Infiscale) are also pretty much dead. Tis a shame, as I really liked Perceus, but as it was based on Warewulf components in the first place, I hope most of its functionality can be reproduced (and this time in a project, like Warewulf, that has a kinder license (BSD)) Cheers, Christopher Heller (former OSCAR core team member representing Intel from 2006-2007) HPC solutions engineer for the Intel Cluster Ready program From: Sam Whiteman [ mailto:white...@ipfw.edu ] Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 8:12 AM To: oscar-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Oscar-users] Seeking OSCAR replacement (CentOS based preferred) I've been playing with Clusterllab's Pacemaker et. al. >>> "Nash, Stephen" 06/14/12 9:00 AM >>> Hello, OK. So it appears that Oscar is very much dead. Does anyone know of any similar solutions which are still active? I have come across two that appear to still be ?alive?: Rocks and Warewulf. Does anyone know of any others? A lot of the others that I have been aware of in the past (Oscar, Perceus, Caos, etc.) all lead to dead-ends web links or bits that are several years old. Thanks in advance, Steve Nash ________________________________ This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. 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