portal http://www.treasury.gov.my/
case study http://knowledge.oscc.org.my/practice-areas/government/2008-oss-case-studies/32.perkasa-mof.pdf/view united nations e-government survey 2008: malaysia ranked 17 http://www.unpan.org/egovkb/global_reports/08report.htm Although the majority of the countries in the top 35 are from developed countries and of that group, the bulk are from Europe, a number of developing countries have invested in upgrading their national and ministries’ portals to compete with the developed countries. For instance, the United Arab Emirates (UAE) and Malaysia jumped into the top 20 countries. The UAE and Malaysia went up mostly due to the strength of three of their ministries’ websites, namely: Social Welfare, Labour and Finance. For the UAE, these three ministries provide electronic signatures; they have a formal time frame by which to respond to online queries and e-mails; they allow for the creation of online accounts; and the submission and payment by credit card as part of their transactional model. Malaysia has enhanced the websites of its three ministries by using multimedia tools (both audio and video). In addition, these sites encourage citizen e-participation and provide their citizens with downloadable forms. The Ministry of Labour has a formal time frame by which to respond to online queries and e-mails and the Ministry of Social Welfare has the ability to respond to its citizens via e-mail. On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Azrul Hasni MADISA <azrulha...@gmail.com>wrote: > Who leads the internal team? We should have him on OSCONF. > > Azrul > > > On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Kamal Fariz <kamal.fa...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Which portal would that be? Gov.my? >> >> >> On 22-Dec-2009, at 3:06 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah <rajaiskand...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> well, i have more news to scare the shit out of the vendors >> >> the number 1 government portal in malaysia was implemented inhouse by the >> agency. this included the cms and load balancing - handling 1 million hits. >> >> rated top by mdec. and rated highly in the world by united nations. that i >> would call a world class implementation. >> >> in 2004, this inhouse implementation for a top rated website is unheard >> of. and 5 years from now, we will probably find more. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Eric Yeoh < <msiantuxlo...@gmail.com> >> msiantuxlo...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Gotta start at the school and tertiary levels. Most of the lecturers will >>> only know how to code with MS technologies. >>> >>> Linux Varsiti is a good attempt but there needs to be a more centralised >>> and concerted attempt. >>> >>> As for Govt, well they will just outsource (good news for service >>> providers!). If no budget or something that cannot be readily.easily >>> outsource quite possibly they will abandon the project. >>> >>> I am no coder but am willing to help.... >>> >>> Eric >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 12:52 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah >>> <<rajaiskand...@gmail.com> >>> rajaiskand...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> current experience with 2 ministries in putrajaya >>>> >>>> ministry #1 - tender specifically requests for oss. besides cost, the >>>> purpose is not to be locked down with licensing. and they can share with >>>> the >>>> 6 agencies under them. >>>> >>>> ministry #2 - already knew what feature was needed and required oss so >>>> that they can integrate with existing system. >>>> >>>> other 'overlooked' reason for oss: >>>> >>>> 1. inhouse development. very few ict officers like to fill long >>>> forms, write kertas kerja, and wait till next year to have a software. >>>> and >>>> typically, users wanted it yesterday. so the alternative is download >>>> oss and >>>> have it running by the end of the week. >>>> 2. features: spent the whole of the last 2 weeks reading through 58 >>>> oss case study awards. what struck me was that 80% of them regarded oss >>>> as >>>> superior (the other 20% was in desktop deployments) >>>> >>>> at the moment the situation is still in the 'trial' stage which means >>>> that they are using whatever is available. >>>> >>>> i constantly look at tenders / requests for quotes specifically for web >>>> based applications. more than half specified open source. most recent is >>>> from a ministry which specifically requested development on joomla. >>>> >>>> and it scares the shit out of m$... cutting prices to the govt academics >>>> by a huge 85%. tying up with php companies and sponsoring a booth at >>>> mygosscon. coming up with installer for several oss cms for windows. >>>> >>>> instead of bitching, pitch one more time, >>>> instead of blaming, fix one more bug >>>> >>>> we need lots more oss developers.... there are heaps more work that can >>>> be done. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Eric Yeoh < <msiantuxlo...@gmail.com> >>>> msiantuxlo...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Brian, >>>>> >>>>> I am sure he does. Since I was in R&D and now in Training, I never >>>>> really got around looking at the numbers properly. >>>>> >>>>> Although I can never attest to its authenticity (or otherwise), from my >>>>> experience dealing with agencies, there is seems to be a genuine interest >>>>> in >>>>> FOSS. >>>>> >>>>> As mentioned, I only fear that they will alway associate FOSS with Free >>>>> as in cost rather than in Freedom. >>>>> >>>>> Eric >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:45 PM, BRIAN RITCHIE >>>>> <<esqbrianritc...@gmail.com> >>>>> esqbrianritc...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Eric, >>>>>> >>>>>> I am sure we can get Kaeru to revert on this if it is indeed his >>>>>> figures. 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