I am aware of your association in Phase One. OSCC wanted to do so much but at each turn we were blocked by political interests and general apathy. MAMPU as we are know is a schizophrenic animal, each jabatan seem to have its own mind and the KP really don't care, so as long as dapat naik pangkat.
The statistics are available, but since I was involved with the training portion only, I do not have it. Raja and Red1 were the two chaps who helped us do up the BRR - Benefit Realisation Report; maybe they have a copy of it. The Govt is a control freak. Anything they do is hak kerajaan. We have suggested to involve the community in building some of the stuff, but then the ones in power only want the name and tried to use the community as kuli percuma - case in point MyGOSSCON. When we suggested to reach out to the Private Sector, the official answer is always "We only do Public Sector". WTF!? It shows those in power don't know the first thing about FOSS. Even they argue that FOSS is a "haram" word; we could only use OSS. Jeez! Much that I say, I am sure you have seen and gone through them; since you were in Phase One. I am not saying that OSCC was a great success, but to say it was an epic failure can be affront to us who put in thousands of man hours to try to make it work. I can understand that outside of the Public Sector, there was hardly a noticeable ripple. It was sad - I really believed we were doing something positive for FOSS in Malaysia. Alas like so many alumni of Pahse Two will attest, we all ended up being tukang buat slide for clueless politicians. Eric On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 12:57 AM, Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan <sharuzza...@gmail.com> wrote: > Saya pernah berkerja didalam OSCC semasa fasa pertama dibawah syarikat DRB > IT. > > MyNetwatch adalah hasil usaha saya. Malah nama MyNetwatch tu pun saya yang > cadangkan. Dokumen untuk versi pertama MyNetwatch saya yang tulis. > > Tapi cuba kira berapa banyak agensi kerajaan yang menggunakan MyNetwatch, > sama ada versi awal, atau versi yang terkini. Berapa banyak pula yang > menggunakan OpenOffice sepenuhnya? MAMPU kata lebih 90%, tapi yang > menghairankan, MAMPU juga masih menggunakan format PROPRIETARY dari > MICROSOFT untuk dokumen tender mereka. Impak kah itu? > > Berapa banyak pula agensi yang menggunakan produk lain OSCC seperti > MySpamguard, MySurfguard, MyMeeting dan sebagainya? Mana nombor/statistik > ni? > > Kenapa nombor ni tak dicanangkan keseluruh dunia? > > Apa yang sering dicanangkan, adalah keberjayaan melaksanakan pertandingan > pengaturcaraan 36 jam tanpa henti. Tapi apa hasil dari pertandingan ini? > Mana kodnya dan mana projeknya? > > Apa sumbangan pertandingan tu kepada Sumber Terbuka Malaysia? > > Banyak lagi soalan. Tapi nanti bazir masa jer bertanya. > > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 12:31 AM, <ta...@sabily.my> wrote: >> >> Banyak jasa OSCC dalam kerajaan sebenarnya. >> Dari zaman DRB IT, sampai Dataware yang mana di dalamnya ada hadir sama >> Saudara HarisFazillah, Mr Eric, Khairul Izzat dan yang lainnya (maaf x sebut >> semua), banyak impak dan perubahan telah berlaku dalam kerajaan. >> Kita dah ada MySpamguard, Mysurfguard, MyMeeting.. >> Pelajar dah tau guna OpenOffice, Ubuntu.. GIMP >> Kerajaan dah banyak guna Joomla!, Ubuntu Server dan CentOS.. Semua tu di >> era syarikat yang bernanung di bawah OSCC dan saya rasa Dataware paling >> berjaya setakat ini. Satu kerugian kalau x teruskan legasi ini. >> >> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte <msiantuxlo...@gmail.com> >> Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com >> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 00:24:55 >> To: <osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com> >> Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: [osdcmy] Wassup With OSCC ? >> >> I disagree. It was not a way to spend Govt money but a way for someone >> to get promoted to Jusa. >> >> Measuring significance in the global scale, OSCC didn't make much of a >> presence. But at least there is some events on FOSS now like >> MyGOSSCON. >> >> Eric >> >> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan >> <sharuzza...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > This kind of situation is common. >> > >> > The company that will get the tender will be a company that is not even >> > known as an Open Source supporter or contributor. >> > >> > As long as they are big and got lots of money, they will get it. >> > >> > I'm not surprised in the end OSCC is nothing but just another way to >> > spend >> > government money. Nothing really significant was achieved. >> > >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah >> > <rajaiskand...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> on the topic of oss at tadika, this is fairly easy to approach : >> >> fimos can approach datin sri rosmah mansor >> >> a child friendly remix (like the icon based ubuntu netbook remix) with >> >> touch-screen monitors would probably work - along with a 'reliable >> >> hardware >> >> and software'. i foresee the other main competitor would be >> >> terengganu's >> >> ebook and the biggest other challenge are the content providers >> >> providing >> >> only for m$ windows platform. >> >> >> >> on the original topic of this thread .... ehem... ehem.... >> >> i am hearing news that hitech padu will be involved in oscc and >> >> openhis. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 9:45 AM, <ta...@sabily.my> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Kita memang tengah berusaha ke arah tukan soire meira. >> >>> Projek jawi kita, kita boleh try implement bermula dari tadika. >> >>> Kerjasama kita dengan UKM kita perlu fikirkan sebab dorang dah minta >> >>> untuk buat perbincangan dengan kita. >> >>> Bila ye, nak buat?.. >> >>> >> >>> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile. >> >>> >> >>>________________________________ >> >>> From: Soire Meira <soire...@gmail.com> >> >>> Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com >> >>> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 09:38:33 +0800 >> >>> To: <osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com> >> >>> ReplyTo: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com >> >>> Subject: Re: [osdcmy] Wassup With OSCC ? >> >>> Paperwork plz.. but i will try.. insyaallah! >> >>> >> >>> 2011/3/16 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini <jipangmenje...@gmail.com> >> >>>> >> >>>> sekarang isunya macam mana nak ajukan benda ni untuk direalisasikan. >> >>>> sekadar menaip di mailinglist tak guna juga. >> >>>> >> >>>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Soire Meira <soire...@gmail.com> >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> guru2 + pengasuh hanya perlu asas sahaja utk ajar kanak2 ni membuka >> >>>>> serta belajar asas (aplikasi game+eduction dlm linux kn bnyk). jika >> >>>>> bantahan >> >>>>> dr ibubpa high-class adalah kemungkinan besar.. so try at kampung @ >> >>>>> tmpt >> >>>>> taraf hidup sederhana or below. so tntu mereka akn trima.. dr ctu >> >>>>> akn lahir >> >>>>> anak yg bijak pandai .. walaupun nmpk mcm xberkesan.. tp ni utk 10 >> >>>>> thn punya >> >>>>> target! siapa sangka Malaysia juga mampu melahirkn Jutawan Muda lbh >> >>>>> baik dr >> >>>>> Mark Zuckerberg.. >> >>>>> p/s: Hack to Learn, Not Learn to Hack >> >>>>> >> >>>>> 2011/3/15 Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte <msiantuxlo...@gmail.com> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Satu cadangan yang menarik. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Tapi guru2 dan pengasuh2 tadika mesti mempunyai kemahiran asas FOSS >> >>>>>> sebelum mengajar anak2. Kemungkinan besar bantahan dari ibubapa >> >>>>>> yang >> >>>>>> berpendapat perisian Mac atau mikrolembut lebih berguna daripada >> >>>>>> perisian percuma "berkualiti rendah". >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 9:49 PM, Soire Meira <soire...@gmail.com> >> >>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>> > Apa kata klu dimulakn dari TADIKA.. so ada generasi baru.. he3.. >> >>>>>> > skadar >> >>>>>> > cadangan ja >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > 2011/3/15 Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte >> >>>>>> > <msiantuxlo...@gmail.com> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> Other training providers actually hated OSCC's guts; since we >> >>>>>> >> used >> >>>>>> >> to >> >>>>>> >> provide free FOSS training to GOMEN and since GOMEN is the >> >>>>>> >> largest >> >>>>>> >> consumer of IT products and services...you can imagine how much >> >>>>>> >> other >> >>>>>> >> providers hated us. >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> OSCC kept the trainings free of charge to encourage the agencies >> >>>>>> >> to >> >>>>>> >> send their staff to be trained. This presented a challenge since >> >>>>>> >> one >> >>>>>> >> of the objectives of the Master Plan was to encourage the growth >> >>>>>> >> of >> >>>>>> >> the Malaysian FOSS industry. As we were already giving out free >> >>>>>> >> trainings we were basically killing the training providers' >> >>>>>> >> efforts >> >>>>>> >> to >> >>>>>> >> provide FOSS programmes. To "even" up and to avoid to further >> >>>>>> >> antagonising the training providers, we limited the trainings to >> >>>>>> >> Grades F and FT only. >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> You can ask for training if several schools combined and ask for >> >>>>>> >> it. I >> >>>>>> >> approved several such applications when I was there. >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> Eric >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 10:55 AM, <ta...@sabily.my> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> > Ye ke sifoo? Ke tinggal nama. >> >>>>>> >> > One thing la kalau boleh tukar sikit polisi. Training on OSS >> >>>>>> >> > bukan dalam >> >>>>>> >> > lingkungan IT officer, because sometime IT officer yang >> >>>>>> >> > menolak >> >>>>>> >> > OSS >> >>>>>> >> > adoption. Maybe kene open untuk skim perjawatan yang lain, >> >>>>>> >> > contohnya DG >> >>>>>> >> > (cikgu). Sebab kita lihat pattern di organisasi kerajaan, DG >> >>>>>> >> > (cikgu) juga >> >>>>>> >> > ada fighter untuk OSS. >> >>>>>> >> > Sorry, I have no number again.. >> >>>>>> >> > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom >> >>>>>> >> > Mobile. >> >>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> >> > -----Original Message----- >> >>>>>> >> > From: Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte >> >>>>>> >> > <msiantuxlo...@gmail.com> >> >>>>>> >> > Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com >> >>>>>> >> > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:51:19 >> >>>>>> >> > To: <osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com> >> >>>>>> >> > Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com >> >>>>>> >> > Subject: Re: [osdcmy] Wassup With OSCC ? >> >>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> >> > OSCC exists on paper only now. >> >>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> >> > Eric >> >>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> >> > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Garfield WTF >> >>>>>> >> > <garfi...@debmal.my> >> >>>>>> >> > wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >> @Harisfazillah >> >>>>>> >> >> I believe the current OSCC now, need more capable people to >> >>>>>> >> >> get >> >>>>>> >> >> the >> >>>>>> >> >> jobs >> >>>>>> >> >> done nicely. >> >>>>>> >> >> Since you & Eric leave OSCC, it seems like not much capable >> >>>>>> >> >> ppl >> >>>>>> >> >> left at >> >>>>>> >> >> there. >> >>>>>> >> >> Those who are capable to do work, seems like they are too >> >>>>>> >> >> overload, >> >>>>>> >> >> until >> >>>>>> >> >> ==> cat /proc/loadavg ==> 150.00 80.00 70.00 <== WAH!!! >> >>>>>> >> >> If continue like this, I think those ppl will also leave >> >>>>>> >> >> soon... >> >>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> -- >> >>>>>> >> >> GarfieldWTF >> >>>>>> >> >> Debian User Community (Malaysia) >> >>>>>> >> >> http://debmal.my >> >>>>>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> >>>>>> >> >> CS Squad VPS Hosting >> >>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> -- >> >>>>>> >> >> To unsubscribe from and detail about this group >> >>>>>> >> >> http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information >> >>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 >> >>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> >> > -- >> >>>>>> >> > To unsubscribe from and detail about this group >> >>>>>> >> > http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information >> >>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> >> > MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 >> >>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> >> > -- >> >>>>>> >> > To unsubscribe from and detail about this group >> >>>>>> >> > http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information >> >>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> >> > MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 >> >>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> -- >> >>>>>> >> To unsubscribe from and detail about this group >> >>>>>> >> http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > -- >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>>>>> > Maui Sabily 2011 >> >>>>>> > GPG KeyID: DBDA3074 >> >>>>>> > GPG Fingerprint: 3CCE D281 C894 4FB0 3D22 2141 75C6 E41F DBDA >> >>>>>> > 3074 >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > Soire Meira 2008 - 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