Greg

Currently using the 7G


On 15 August 2013 14:11, Greg Low (Old POP Address) <g...@greglow.com>wrote:

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> Regards,****
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> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Grant Maw
> *Sent:* Thursday, 15 August 2013 2:00 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Subject:* Re: [OT] Developer keyboard****
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> You really ought to try a mechanical keyboard. They are more expensive but
> they are solid, well built, and will last you a lifetime if you look after
> them. My (non-touch) typing has improved by a factor of 2, and I was pretty
> fast before this. Look at Armor for a wireless one or SteelSeries for a
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> On 15 August 2013 13:51, Wallace Turner <wallace.tur...@gmail.com> wrote:*
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> Do not accept that the ergonomic keyboard will make your life easier. I
> used one for well over a year before I realised I hated it. its too big,
> its inconvenient. when debugging step out is a pain in the neck as I'm used
> to using my left hand alone to do this (Shift-11) as my right hand is on
> the mouse so i can inspect variables or whatever I need to do when
> debugging.****
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> I'm back on a compact keyboard - works for me.****
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> http://www.dhgate.com/product/new-dell-mini-1012-series-uk-black-keyboard/143650991.html?utm_source=pla&utm_medium=GMC&utm_campaign=wisshen&utm_term=143650991&f=bm%7c143650991%7c104006-Keyboards-Mice-Input%7cGMC%7cAdwords%7cpla%7cwisshen%7cAU%7c104006007-LaptopReplacementKeyboards%7cc%7c&gclid=CIvSya7F_rgCFcYipQodXjoAkA
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> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Corneliu I. Tusnea <
> corne...@acorns.com.au> wrote:****
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> I'm a big fan of keyboards and I've tested heaps and heaps of them and I
> always go back to the ergonomic ones from Microsoft.****
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> I know you don't like them but I think they are very very good and once
> you get used you'll never want to go back.****
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> I'm currently using the Microsoft Natural 400 ****
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> http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/en-us/p/natural-ergonomic-keyboard-4000*
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> I have one at home and one at work and they rock. The split angle is small
> enough to allow easy use with one hand in the rare moments that I need to
> use a single hand and keep a hand on the mouse.****
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> The older ergonomic ones were having a higher angle making them impossible
> to use with one hand.****
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> I also looked at that new Manta Ray and I think I'll buy one. I like that
> the keypad is separate and I love the long delete key (my previous keyboard
> had that long delete and I enjoyed it.****
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> To make my life easier I always remap most of VS commands that I
> frequently use to use only the left hand with no need to use the right hand.
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> - Alt+1 - Build Selected Project****
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> - Alt+2 - Find References (Resharper)****
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> - Alt+W - Highlight References****
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> - Alt+Q - Goto Definition****
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> and few more so you can keep a hand on the mouse and one on the keyboard :)
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> I think no keyboard shortcut should ever need two hands.****
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> Whoever came up with the Ctrl+Shift+F12 shortcut and Ctrl+Shift+B?****
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> Have you tried to press Ctrl+Shift+B with one hand? My hand hurts just
> looking a the keyboard to try to figure out how to press that.****
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> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 1:08 PM, mike smith <meski...@gmail.com> wrote:***
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> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 12:04 PM, David Richards <
> ausdot...@davidsuniverse.com> wrote:****
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> A bit off topic and a bit on topic.  I've been in the market for a good
> developer keyboard for a while but never seem to find anything I like.  I
> was just wondering if others on this list had found a decent keyboard.****
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> I don't want a number pad or at least I don't want one on the right of the
> keyboard.  Not that I have anything against them, I just want my mouse to
> be closer.  I've tested this using a cheap (and crappy) laptop like
> keyboard and there is a noticeable difference in comfort.  I can just as
> easily by a separate number pad keyboard to position elsewhere.****
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> Or not at all.  If you touchtype, they are almost unused.  Funny I didn't
> realise this, I just picked up my somewhat used KB and held it to reflect
> light.   Right.  The numeric KB is still matte, the main KB numbers are
> shiny with wear.****
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> I would prefer the cursor keys and the other navigation keys to be in a
> reasonable location.  My "crappy" keyboard as some of these along the
> bottom.  It also sacrificed the right Control key in favour of a Scroll
> Lock key.  Who uses scroll lock any more?****
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> What does it even do?  ****
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> I don't like those "ergonomic" keyboards that split the keyboard to be
> comfortable for two hands.  I don't know about the rest of you but I spend
> at least as much time with one hand on the mouse and the other on the
> keyboard as I do with both hands on the keyboard.  So the ergonomic aspects
> are actually a hindrance when typing with one hand.****
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> Disagree.  Going back to flat KB's is a major pain now for me.****
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> I don't care about media buttons or any other specific use button.  I
> never user them.  They just make the keyboard bigger.  20% of the keys on
> my current keyboard will never be used.****
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> Agree, and get rid of the effing flock key and all the media shifts on the
> f keys.****
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> Obviously I want the keys to be comfortable to use 8 hours a day.****
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> Dude, at least 8.  You likely use a KB another 4-8 when you get home.****
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> The recently announce keyboard from microsoft is fairly close to what I'm
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> http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/08/microsofts-new-ergonomic-keyboard-is-just-plain-weird-looking/
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> But it's ergonomic style is a bit of a negative.****
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> Yes, and I'm going to call in at officeworks to buy one on the way home.
>  Thank you!****
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> Re ergonomic.  Try it for a while, you'll learn to love leaning your
> wrists on something.  And likely hate the normal ones.  I use one at home
> on the iMac - for such an ergonomic company Apple has awful keyboards and
> mice.****
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