Greg Currently using the 7G
On 15 August 2013 14:11, Greg Low (Old POP Address) <g...@greglow.com>wrote: > Hi Grant,**** > > ** ** > > Which SteelSeries ones do you like?**** > > ** ** > > Regards,**** > > ** ** > > Greg**** > > ** ** > > Dr Greg Low**** > > ** ** > > 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913fax > **** > > SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com**** > > ** ** > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Grant Maw > *Sent:* Thursday, 15 August 2013 2:00 PM > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:* Re: [OT] Developer keyboard**** > > ** ** > > You really ought to try a mechanical keyboard. They are more expensive but > they are solid, well built, and will last you a lifetime if you look after > them. My (non-touch) typing has improved by a factor of 2, and I was pretty > fast before this. Look at Armor for a wireless one or SteelSeries for a > wired one.**** > > ** ** > > On 15 August 2013 13:51, Wallace Turner <wallace.tur...@gmail.com> wrote:* > *** > > Do not accept that the ergonomic keyboard will make your life easier. I > used one for well over a year before I realised I hated it. its too big, > its inconvenient. when debugging step out is a pain in the neck as I'm used > to using my left hand alone to do this (Shift-11) as my right hand is on > the mouse so i can inspect variables or whatever I need to do when > debugging.**** > > ** ** > > I'm back on a compact keyboard - works for me.**** > > > http://www.dhgate.com/product/new-dell-mini-1012-series-uk-black-keyboard/143650991.html?utm_source=pla&utm_medium=GMC&utm_campaign=wisshen&utm_term=143650991&f=bm%7c143650991%7c104006-Keyboards-Mice-Input%7cGMC%7cAdwords%7cpla%7cwisshen%7cAU%7c104006007-LaptopReplacementKeyboards%7cc%7c&gclid=CIvSya7F_rgCFcYipQodXjoAkA > **** > > ** ** > > On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Corneliu I. Tusnea < > corne...@acorns.com.au> wrote:**** > > Hi David,**** > > ** ** > > I'm a big fan of keyboards and I've tested heaps and heaps of them and I > always go back to the ergonomic ones from Microsoft.**** > > I know you don't like them but I think they are very very good and once > you get used you'll never want to go back.**** > > ** ** > > I'm currently using the Microsoft Natural 400 **** > > http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/en-us/p/natural-ergonomic-keyboard-4000* > *** > > ** ** > > I have one at home and one at work and they rock. The split angle is small > enough to allow easy use with one hand in the rare moments that I need to > use a single hand and keep a hand on the mouse.**** > > The older ergonomic ones were having a higher angle making them impossible > to use with one hand.**** > > I also looked at that new Manta Ray and I think I'll buy one. I like that > the keypad is separate and I love the long delete key (my previous keyboard > had that long delete and I enjoyed it.**** > > ** ** > > To make my life easier I always remap most of VS commands that I > frequently use to use only the left hand with no need to use the right hand. > **** > > - Alt+1 - Build Selected Project**** > > - Alt+2 - Find References (Resharper)**** > > - Alt+W - Highlight References**** > > - Alt+Q - Goto Definition**** > > and few more so you can keep a hand on the mouse and one on the keyboard :) > **** > > ** ** > > I think no keyboard shortcut should ever need two hands.**** > > Whoever came up with the Ctrl+Shift+F12 shortcut and Ctrl+Shift+B?**** > > Have you tried to press Ctrl+Shift+B with one hand? My hand hurts just > looking a the keyboard to try to figure out how to press that.**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 1:08 PM, mike smith <meski...@gmail.com> wrote:*** > * > > On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 12:04 PM, David Richards < > ausdot...@davidsuniverse.com> wrote:**** > > A bit off topic and a bit on topic. I've been in the market for a good > developer keyboard for a while but never seem to find anything I like. I > was just wondering if others on this list had found a decent keyboard.**** > > ** ** > > A few qualifying points:**** > > ** ** > > I don't want a number pad or at least I don't want one on the right of the > keyboard. Not that I have anything against them, I just want my mouse to > be closer. I've tested this using a cheap (and crappy) laptop like > keyboard and there is a noticeable difference in comfort. I can just as > easily by a separate number pad keyboard to position elsewhere.**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > Or not at all. If you touchtype, they are almost unused. Funny I didn't > realise this, I just picked up my somewhat used KB and held it to reflect > light. Right. The numeric KB is still matte, the main KB numbers are > shiny with wear.**** > > **** > > I would prefer the cursor keys and the other navigation keys to be in a > reasonable location. My "crappy" keyboard as some of these along the > bottom. It also sacrificed the right Control key in favour of a Scroll > Lock key. Who uses scroll lock any more?**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > What does it even do? **** > > **** > > I don't like those "ergonomic" keyboards that split the keyboard to be > comfortable for two hands. I don't know about the rest of you but I spend > at least as much time with one hand on the mouse and the other on the > keyboard as I do with both hands on the keyboard. So the ergonomic aspects > are actually a hindrance when typing with one hand.**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > Disagree. Going back to flat KB's is a major pain now for me.**** > > **** > > I don't care about media buttons or any other specific use button. I > never user them. They just make the keyboard bigger. 20% of the keys on > my current keyboard will never be used.**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > Agree, and get rid of the effing flock key and all the media shifts on the > f keys.**** > > **** > > Obviously I want the keys to be comfortable to use 8 hours a day.**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > Dude, at least 8. You likely use a KB another 4-8 when you get home.**** > > **** > > The recently announce keyboard from microsoft is fairly close to what I'm > looking for:**** > > ** ** > > > http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/08/microsofts-new-ergonomic-keyboard-is-just-plain-weird-looking/ > **** > > ** ** > > But it's ergonomic style is a bit of a negative.**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > Yes, and I'm going to call in at officeworks to buy one on the way home. > Thank you!**** > > ** ** > > Re ergonomic. Try it for a while, you'll learn to love leaning your > wrists on something. And likely hate the normal ones. I use one at home > on the iMac - for such an ergonomic company Apple has awful keyboards and > mice.**** > > ** ** > > **** > > ** ** > > -- > Meski**** > > http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv**** > > > "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, > you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** >