Hi Ken,
There are lots of these sorts of infrastructure projects that I'd like to see completed but yes I do have an interest in completion dates, if I'm expected to help fund it. I do have an interest in my kids being able to use it but I can't see any reason why it couldn't be done sooner in areas that have an interest in paying for it. If you were trying to run a commercial business based on rolling out an NBN, where would you start? Would it really be the back of Ballarat and Tamworth or would you roll it out in high-density areas in Sydney/Melbourne that are already screaming for it? A political or public service might do the former when they are spending other peoples' money. A business would do the latter. High speed rail is another one. While I might show some interest in that, when they're talking 2060 or so for the first train, I have only passing interest in it. Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: <http://www.sqldownunder.com/> www.sqldownunder.com From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer Sent: Thursday, 12 December 2013 4:12 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: NBN Petition From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com <mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of GregAtGregLowDotCom Sent: Thursday, 12 December 2013 3:51 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: NBN Petition "not going to be there in my working life" might not be the words you're looking for but the point is that it was going to take such a long time as to nearly be irrelevant to me. OK - are you only planning to be alive for the next 10 years? If you're planning to be alive for more than 10 years, the I don't see how it can be irrelevant. Because a project like this will change the way everyone else (people and business) are going to be doing things. And if you have kids, or your siblings have kids, well then you might want to start caring, because it will have a change on the way they live their lives too. Your attitude is similar to saying "we don't have to worry about climate change, because it won't have a significant impact in my lifetime". Sure. But you might be f*cking up the lives of the next generation by not caring, and from a civics PoV, I'd like to think that intelligent human beings would take an interest in things where their actions (or lack of such) today, are going to potentially have a significant impact down the track. Putting this off because "they take a long time" is simply a recipe for never doing anything significant. My key point is that if you were rolling this out on a commercial basis, you wouldn't do it the way they were doing it. How do you know they aren't? A commercial organisation would be looking to quickly generate income from areas that want it. Surely revenue is one side of a double-sided coin? You need to look at costs as well. For example, I can understand prioritising new greenfields sites - because the alternative is laying copper now, and then replacing it with fibre in the next 5-10 years. That would dramatically increase costs. Some of the more commercially lucrative sites (e.g. inner city Sydney/Melbourne) might also be some of the most costly to implement, due to older buildings, records and facilities. I agree that some of this is politically driven, but as I said before, there is going to have to be some level of compromise. Cheers Ken
