I have also asked it to perform code reviews on code. It's pretty good at refactoring code, and giving you pointers on improvements. When staff raise pull requests, I have my own ideas, but I can also get Copilot to provide suggestions. (I also have Github Copilot, which work provides) It's very good for help in understanding what historic code does too.
In general I find it an invaluable tool. It won't be replacing us any time soon, but people that aren't using it will be less productive. Does it make me 30% more efficient? I don't "feel" it, but there's probably a lot of research time I am saving, and perhaps I don't even realise all the benefits it's giving me. On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 12:33 PM Tony Wright <tonyw...@gmail.com> wrote: > I call it my "low IQ assistant". If I have some menial task that I don't > feel like coding, I ask the AI to do it for me and it's usually pretty good > - except that you do need to check everything! You could ask a junior to do > the same thing. > > I have tested a number of AIs with a bunch of tech questions and the one > that got by far the highest score was Bing Chat - that said I didn't have > access to GPT-4 and Bing Chat is essentially GPT-4 but for free. It's now > called Copilot. > > I also use it for assisting in comprehending business requirements. I take > a doco and ask it to group common themes and produce summaries of the > requirements. Like most developers, my attention would be > struggling otherwise. I can also ask it to act like a BDD expert and > produce Gherkin statements for the testers. > > It helps a lot when I get stuck on a problem. I often get a much better > answer if I ask Bing Chat than if I try to Google it. That could, of > course, be a consequence of how bad Google has become at providing an > answer. Sometimes other people in the team have issues and they come to me > with a much more sophisticated problem. This might mean that I don't even > know the context of the issue they are having, but I can interrogate Bing > Chat and it will give me a response that is quite helpful in many cases. > > It helps when I want to get started on a new problem. I can ask it what I > think I need to know and it often returns answers that help me fine tune > what I am trying to do. Sometimes that requires multiple interactions. If > I'm looking for a new library to solve a problem, I can ask it for advice > on what to look at. It is often helpful, but sometimes makes wrong > assumptions about what I am trying to achieve. The important thing is it > gives me an idea of some libraries to consider. > > Finally, there comes a point at which its value drops and I am getting > better at detecting when that happens and...head to stack overflow. > >> >> > On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 12:25 PM Dr Greg Low via ozdotnet < > ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote: > >> There were other things I should have mentioned. >> >> >> >> The new PowerPoint co-pilot where you just say “Prepare me a presentation >> about what’s in xyz.docx” is pretty amazing. >> >> >> >> I’ve used ChatGPT to rewrite marketing blurb for various things. It does >> that very well. However, I’ve asked it to improve a paragraph of writing, >> and find that something like the Hemmingway editor does a far superior job. >> >> >> >> In Teams, having the AI tool write a summary of what just happened in a >> meeting is pretty stunning. >> >> >> >> We are going to just be using these tools all day long. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Greg >> >> >> >> Dr Greg Low >> >> >> >> 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile >> >> SQL Down Under | Web: https://sqldownunder.com >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__sqldownunder.com_&d=DwMFAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=2rgtwrXggQFZiZbisdwDooYFalucb-vLhjG0McaanBZKn0UVuognuHqfHnjp2AVc&m=I23jyX4AKIv9q2x7A3CQAer9PGCjq8R6DwW7BE1IAhZ1JbigKMrMPRCjs6AqW7h3&s=o3oFliHztOF8D9Nbqaa7KQdqC-zkQNXWl4IqnEG58Wc&e=> >> | >> About Greg: https://about.me/greg.low >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__about.me_greg.low&d=DwMFAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=2rgtwrXggQFZiZbisdwDooYFalucb-vLhjG0McaanBZKn0UVuognuHqfHnjp2AVc&m=I23jyX4AKIv9q2x7A3CQAer9PGCjq8R6DwW7BE1IAhZ1JbigKMrMPRCjs6AqW7h3&s=NsAibgiqfCxsyc8m2DBKogKQcs3OqE3mkyCjmpoYxTk&e=> >> >> >> >> *From:* Dr Greg Low >> *Sent:* Friday, February 23, 2024 12:11 PM >> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> >> *Cc:* Tom Gao <t...@tomgao.com> >> *Subject:* RE: AI >> >> >> >> Hi Tom, >> >> >> >> For me, it depends what you want it to do. It certainly can appear to >> help someone who’s new to an area. >> >> >> >> For most code writing, I’ve been pretty underwhelmed. As an example, if I >> ask it to write SQL, I get a very poor outcome. It will use old deprecated >> views instead of the current system views (that have been around for a >> decade), and often does things in a convoluted way. >> >> >> >> What I have been impressed with, is how it can help you understand >> acronyms, etc. Quite amazing. I’ve also been pretty impressed with using it >> go generate some test data, including in multiple languages. And the test >> data is fairly believable. If I ask it for family names, and I also ask for >> Chinese, it does pick common Chinese family names in the test output. >> That’s pretty impressive. >> >> >> >> It can do a reasonable job of things like “here’s some DAX code, can you >> simplify it?” It often can. Or “here’s a regular expression, can you >> explain what it does?” and it does that just fine. I’ve seen people happily >> using it to explain code that they don’t understand, or to (sort of) >> document some code. >> >> >> >> But it also is so confident on things, yet so wrong. I gave it a 25 >> question baseball umpire test the other day. It was 100% confident >> sounding, but 40% correct. The weird thing is that some of the questions >> that it got right, are things that new human umpires often get wrong. Yet >> for simpler questions, it would say that something legal is illegal. >> >> >> >> It’s certainly interesting, but it’s very much a work in progress. It >> will be part of our futures. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Greg >> >> >> >> Dr Greg Low >> >> >> >> 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile >> >> SQL Down Under | Web: https://sqldownunder.com >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__sqldownunder.com_&d=DwMFAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=2rgtwrXggQFZiZbisdwDooYFalucb-vLhjG0McaanBZKn0UVuognuHqfHnjp2AVc&m=I23jyX4AKIv9q2x7A3CQAer9PGCjq8R6DwW7BE1IAhZ1JbigKMrMPRCjs6AqW7h3&s=o3oFliHztOF8D9Nbqaa7KQdqC-zkQNXWl4IqnEG58Wc&e=> >> | >> About Greg: https://about.me/greg.low >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__about.me_greg.low&d=DwMFAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=2rgtwrXggQFZiZbisdwDooYFalucb-vLhjG0McaanBZKn0UVuognuHqfHnjp2AVc&m=I23jyX4AKIv9q2x7A3CQAer9PGCjq8R6DwW7BE1IAhZ1JbigKMrMPRCjs6AqW7h3&s=NsAibgiqfCxsyc8m2DBKogKQcs3OqE3mkyCjmpoYxTk&e=> >> >> >> >> *From:* Tom Gao via ozdotnet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> >> *Sent:* Friday, February 23, 2024 11:58 AM >> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> >> *Cc:* Tom Gao <t...@tomgao.com> >> *Subject:* AI >> >> >> >> Hi guys, I haven't posted in a few years and haven't been on the tools >> for a long time now as well. I'm on a panel on a digital conference coming >> up in march. We had a pre meeting today and the topic of AI came up. Two of >> the panelist said cited CBA and Westpac using AI and were able to save 30% >> on development effort. >> >> >> >> Personally I just finished an AI course my view is quite the opposite. My >> personal opinion of the generative AI space and AI in general having spent >> time with the academics is that the benefits are significantly over >> inflated. >> >> >> >> I want to get some other opinions if you are seeing any significant >> benefit and that I may be just out of touch or not aware. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Tom >> -- >> ozdotnet mailing list >> To manage your subscription, access archives: >> https://codify.mailman3.com/ >> >
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