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On Mon, 15 Nov 2004, Andre van Deventer wrote:
I cannot agree more! I think the only problem is actually for those of you who do broadcasting. Although you can use Foobar 2000 to listen to streams you cannot use it for broadcasting.
It is extremely screenreader friendly and has menus and shortcuts to work with.
Go to www.foobar2000.org To download it.
Andre
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg Sent: 15 November 2004 09:05 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: The Future of Winamp
Hello! Or change to foobar2000. Its a very nice litle fast player. /Anders. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 6:42 PM Subject: Re: The Future of Winamp
It may be a good idea to write AOL, but as Marty stated, even if theydon'tthemake future versions of Winamp, we can still get the benefits of using the latest versions we have now. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 12:22 PM Subject: Re: The Future of Winamp
Are people writing AOL? I am serious.. I was amazed during oneo f the Nine Eleven fundraisers hosted by AOL that oone of their telephone volunteers knew all aboutiflegitimate compalints by blind people about AOL. I am willing to write and call on this issue.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 11:26 AM Subject: Re: The Future of Winamp
It's too bad this is happening to one of the best players around. If they stop development of Winamp, we'll just have to keep the one we've got,onewecan use it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Pattison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 5:39 AM Subject: Fwd: The Future of Winamp
*********** BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE *********** On 11/11/2004 at 3:44 PM geoff chapman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: check this out, AOL pays 100 million dollars for this one little nullsoft company? amazing! just amazing!
If anyone would like to educate me as to how one little program that does one little job, could possibly become worth, such a huge figure tounderstandcompany to pay, to acquire another, I'd reeeeeeally love towhothis. something about the world I just don't get here yet obviously.
... goodness, one more thing! <grin>.
From an article on the Betanews site:Death Knell Sounds for Nullsoft, Winamp By Nate Mook , BetaNews November 10, 2004, 1:26 PM The last members of the original Winamp team have said goodbye to AOL and the door has all but shut on the Nullsoft era, BetaNews has learned. Only a few employees remain to prop up the once-ubiquitous digital audio player with minor updates, but no further improvements to Winamp are expected. \ Winamp's demise comes as no surprise to those close to the companyandsay the software has been on life support since the resignation of Nullsoft founderuntilWinamp creator Justin Frankel last January. The marriage of Nullsoft and AOL was always one of discontent. After AOL acquired the small company in 1999 for around $100 million, the young team of Winamp developers was assimilated into a strict corporate culture that begged for rebellion. Although Nullsoft was initially given a long leash by AOL, It wasn't longoverthe two ideologies collided. Frankel and his team were accustomed to simply brainstorming ideassharingcoffee and bringing them to the masses without approval. So when Frankel and fellow Nullsoft developer Tom Pepper devised a decentralized peer-to-peer filependingsystem, dubbed Gnutella, parent AOL was left in the dark. Gnutella was unveiled in March 2000, much to the chagrin of an unprepared AOL; executives feared the program would encourage copyright infringement and damage the company'signitingmerger with Time Warner. AOL quickly clamped down on Gnutella, but not before the software's source code leaked. Gnutella-based alternatives soon followed,times,a peer-to-peer land grab that has yet to subside. But AOL knew it had to protect its investment and turn a profit from the freely available Winamp. Frankel and crew found themselves in hot water numerousNullsoft'sbut always escaped with little more than a proverbial slap on the wrist. However, growing displeasure reached a boiling point with Nullsoft's unsanctioned release of WASTE -- an encrypted file-sharing network -- in June 2003. Frankel threatened to resign after AOL removed WASTE , but remained with the company long enough to finish Winamp 5.0. Frankel's departure followed AOL layoffs and the closure ofofSan Francisco offices in December 2003. With AOL struggling to stave off declining subscriber numbers and 700 additional layoffs planned for next month, the company's focus has shifted away from supporting acquisitions such as Winamp. Despite the somber farewell, Nullsoft's former masterminds are proudincredibletheir accomplishments. Winamp helped start a digital audio revolution and boasts an"a60 million users per month. After a disappointing Winamp3 , Nullsoft developers returned to the drawing board and completed long-standing goals with the release of Winamp 5.0 in late 2003. Nullsoft's Shoutcast , which pioneered audio streaming over the Internet, is called "the Net's best secret" by its creator Tom Pepper and has reached 170,000 simultaneous users accounting for 70 million hours of listening each month. For its part, AOL says it remains committed to Winamp, stating it isthriving product that AOL continues to support and will continue to support." But without those who poured their heart and soul into building the software, Winamp seems destined to meet a fate similar to fellow audio player Sonique , after Lycos saw the departure of its development team. Sonique has stagnated for years, and development ceased altogether last March. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] When you have eliminated the impossible. whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. *********** END FORWARDED MESSAGE ***********
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