hi. You might like to even go back to version 5.08E which is what I 
use.  It's probably around somewhere.

At 09:59 AM 10/12/2005, you wrote:
>But they *were* there when I first installed 5.1; that's how I found the URL
>for WQXR. and that's why it's so weird that they've subsequently
>disappeared, unless, as I suggested, they were, in fact, only there as a
>trial offer, so to speak.
>
>In any case, and what's even weirder, now, I can't even find the main
>treeview in the library. And, it's NOT the JAWS focus issue. Sighted friends
>have confirmed that it's just not there, any longer.
>
>I've tried re-installing 5.1 over the current installation. but that didn't
>change anything. Since I hardly ever use the Library, except for editing and
>rearranging bookmarks, and thanks to Chris I now know how to do that by
>editing winamp.bm, I'm seriously considering uninstalling 5.1, and
>downgrading to 5.092. Any thought before I do?
>
>Blessed Be,
>
>Dana
>that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
>
>D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
>Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Skype: dsleslie
>Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
>Your Source for Discounted Ideas
>http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Chris Skarstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 10:13 AM
>Subject: Re: winamp problem
>
>
>Hi.  The xm stations, *were* only available in 5.1.  It shows a listing for
>them in there now, but they're not there, even with the pro version of
>Winamp. so it's nothing any of us are doing.  it's on the Nullsoft/aol end
>of things.
>
>
>
>
>At 08:27 AM 10/12/2005, you wrote:
> >Dana,
> >Thanks for letting me know the short URL works, smile, maybe i'll play with
> >that.  i'm still running Winamp 5.09 so maybe the references to XM and AOL
> >content are new to the latest version, nothing like taking three days to
> >figure that out.  If I do find these stations in the library and get them
> >to
> >work it'll be great, but otherwise i'm not sure it is worth the upgrade.
> >other than the focus issues in the library window that you mentioned, have
> >you seen any other problems with the latest version?  Seems to me I'd heard
> >of some but maybe wasn't paying close enough attention.  As with anything
> >Winamp or even audio, mileage seems to vary.  i may upgrade eventually but
> >not today--definitely too much else to do and low frustration tolerance.
> >
> >Susan
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> >Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 12:51 PM
> >Subject: Re: winamp problem
> >
> >
> >There is a www.wqxr.com
> >But, when you try to get to their stream from there, the link takes you to
> >the sign up for AOL. I figured it was much easier to go through Winamp,
> >since I found it there. And it's still working that way, even though I can
> >no longer find the AOL with XM section of the Winamp library.
> >
> >BTW, I just experimented and found that, in the terribly long and ugly URL
> >I
> >gave you, everything after the question mark can be deleted, and it will
> >still work.
> >
> >Blessed Be,
> >
> >Dana
> >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
> >
> >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
> >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Skype: dsleslie
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> >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Susan Wojtecki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> >Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 12:35 PM
> >Subject: Re: winamp problem
> >
> >
> > > Dana,
> > > Hmm,  I didn't know that WQXR was one of the XM choices.  Maybe i'll try
> > > to
> > > find that, though i'm still not real good at pasting in URL's to the
> > > Winamp
> > > address bar or whatever it's called.  For this station maybe I'll just
> > > stick
> > > to the regular radio, lol.  Of course, maybe there's a variant of
> > > www.wqxr.com, but no, that's probably too simple, right?  nothing like a
> > > little wishful thinking.
> > >
> > > Thanks for your response.  I'm still not sure I understand whether this
> > > XM
> > > or AOL content is free or not and under what conditions.  it's
> > > frustrating
> > > to have to register for things before you know what you are agreeing to,
> > > and
> > > then of course there's the chance it won't work.  Oh well, no such thing
> > > as
> > > a free radio station or something, lol.
> > >
> > > Susan
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> > > Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 12:25 PM
> > > Subject: Re: winamp problem
> > >
> > >
> > >> Susan,
> > >>
> > >> Well, I don't fully understand it, either. but, when Winamp 5.1 was
> > >> released, a couple of months ago, there was a new subsection in the
> > >> Online
> > >> Streams section of the Library, where you could find AOL with XM
> > >> streams.
> > >> I
> > >> found a stream in there for WQXR, the New York Times' classical music
> > >> station. I bookmarked it, and I was able to copy the URL from the edit
> > >> bookmarks dialogue to my web page. The stream still plays fine, whether
> > >> I
> > >> use the bookmark or the link I created on my web page. but, apparently,
> > >> several of us, at least, can no longer find this section of the Winamp
> > >> library. Actually, just at the moment, I'm having trouble navigating
> > >> the
> > >> library, at all. Ever since 5.1 was introduce, JAWS would continually
> > >> lose
> > >> focus as one tabbed away from the main treeview in the library, and
> > >> then
> > >> tried to get back to it. One would have to use the JAWS cursor to find
> > >> the
> > >> items on the treevew, then click on them and route pc to JAWS. Bt, just
> > >> since this morning, I can't even find the treeview. something is VERY
> > >> screwed up! I'll have to get a sighted person to take a look, tomorrow.
> > >>
> > >> If you're interested, here is the URL I found for WQXR, it's very long
> > >> and
> > >> very ugly, and you have to get it all into Winamp's location bar, until
> > >> you
> > >> bookmark it. But I still have no idea how the URL is structured, or how
> > >> it
> > >> might help you to infer the URLs of other Xm streams that will play in
> > >> Winamp:
> > >>
> > 
> uvox://64.236.34.107:5190/stream/13270?auth_token=r%3D2113823%26sid%3D12770%26expires%3D1126760580065%26csum%3D2cd01f29f7b603749d5c100cdf2f2429&uid=WA-287F2030C25141DC83537812639D1992&sessid=29D12D3CCEFB4A27A0B2D4ED5D8FFB58
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Susan Wojtecki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> > >> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 11:46 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: winamp problem
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Gail and Dana,
> > >>> I'm a little confused as to the relationship between the XM stations
> > >>> and
> > >>> AOL
> > >>> and the player through which they are accessed.  I mean, I was under
> > >>> the
> > >>> impression that those with an XM account could only play the streams
> > >>> through
> > >>> Windows Media.  I had an account but canceled it since I found I had
> > >>> long
> > >>> buffering times on many occasions and sometimes couldn't seem to
> > >>> access
> > >>> streams at all, though maybe I didn't try long or hard enough to solve
> > >>> this
> > >>> problem. Bottom line was that I couldn't see paying for a service I
> > >>> wasn't
> > >>> able to access.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> However, after they did this deal with AOL this summer, I tried to
> > >>> find
> > >>> out
> > >>> how it worked but couldn't get definitive information.  I assume that
> > >>> they
> > >>> want you to download an AOL player which you pay for?  Does this mean
> > >>> that
> > >>> AOL takes over your ISP?  I have good cable service and this is not
> > >>> something I'd want to have happen.  Dana, are you saying that there is
> > >>> a
> > >>> way
> > >>> to use Winamp as the player of choice listening to these streams?
> > >>> That
> > >>> would seem to be ideal for me since I think the buffering problems I
> > >>> had
> > >>> are
> > >>> somehow related to WMP 10 though am not completely certain.  Would
> > >>> appreciate if you or other good folks could clarify, lol, i'm
> > >>> definitely
> > >>> confused.
> > >>>
> > >>> Susan
> > >>>
> > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>> To: <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> > >>> Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 10:16 PM
> > >>> Subject: Re: winamp problem
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Ah, I stand corrected. Since I use the AOL service for my ISP, it is
> > >>>> easy
> > >>>> for
> > >>>> me to go to AOL radio on their main screen, so I didn't look for that
> > >>>> feature
> > >>>> in the Winamp library. But Winamp probably doesn't have all the AOL
> > >>>> radio
> > >>>> features. If I know AOL, they're probably using it as an advertising
> > >>>> ploy
> > >>>> to
> > >>>> convince more people to switch to their full service. I like their
> > >>>> service
> > >>>> but I
> > >>>> wouldn't try to talk anyone into switching just because of their
> > >>>> radio
> > >>>> feature.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Gail
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