Well, this is probably getting off topic, and there are probably other mailing lists where politics could be discussed to death, but I'll go ahead and make two contributions to this discussion anyway.
First, the statement "Simple, really. If either organization for the blind down there were to get such a law to pass, the other would shoot it down." is an overly simplistic statement and is made with nothing to back it up. I'm sure if the details were looked at, it would be obvious that there's more to this than just the organizations of the blind being contrary. Second, the statement "... we can't make any progress in getting things done, because our blind population can't agree on any solutions!" is also equally simplistic and denies the fact that the blind population is a subset of the overall population. Sure, I'd like to believe that the blind are just plain better than everyone else, we're more altruistic, smarter, quicker to set aside our differences, and so on, but just as the population in general doesn't always agree on everything, even when the common good is being debated, it's naive to think the blind population will be any different. Gary Wood wrote: > And, that's exactly our problem, because that's why we can't make any > progress in getting things done, because our blind population can't agree on > any solutions! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 3:35 PM > Subject: Re: Describe Video Service > > > >> Simple, really. If either organization for the blind down there were to >> get such a law to pass, the other would shoot it down. >> bruce >> >> -- >> Bruce Toews >> Skype ID: o.canada >> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com >> Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net >> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net >> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com >> >> On Sat, 23 Jun 2007, gmail wrote: >> >> >>> you know the whole oproblem with the whole descriptive video thing is >>> that >>> we as blind people pay way way more for the same movie a sited person >>> would >>> get with out the dvs track. >>> Why can't their be a law passed in our national congress saying that each >>> new release that comes out on dvd has to have a separate dvs track for >>> the >>> blind, I mean, if the deaf can get closed captioning why can't we get dvs >>> in >>> our movies and televition shows with out paying out rageous prices for >>> the >>> same services as the sited? >>> Brandon >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>> Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 3:16 PM >>> Subject: Re: Describe Video Service >>> >>> >>> >>>> Absolutely there would be copyright issues. Whether people choose to >>>> ignore those copyright issues is their personal choice, but there's no >>>> denying that the copyright issues do exist. >>>> >>>> bruce >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Bruce Toews >>>> Skype ID: o.canada >>>> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com >>>> Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net >>>> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net >>>> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com >>>> >>>> On Sat, 23 Jun 2007, Gary Wood wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi Don! But the thing is, if we can do that, and it would be great, >>>>> would >>>>> there be copyright issues, especially if we were to burn to DVD's! >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Donald L. Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>>> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 11:50 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: Describe Video Service >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hello Roden, >>>>>> >>>>>> You can download described movies by joining the blind movie >>>>>> buffs list. Send a blank message to: >>>>>> >>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> >>>>>> This is not an endorsement; merely pointing out one possible >>>>>> source. >>>>>> >>>>>> Don Roberts >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> >>>>>>> From : "Roden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> >>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. 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