The truth is that there are no scripts and there never have been.  All we've
had on this subject is "somebody should do something" or "there must be
something".  So don't hold your breath.  I can tell you that neither Jaws,
Window-eyes nor Screen Access, the Mike Calvo product, recognize the
graphics in the Creative Labs volume panel.  There are some on off toggles
that you can access via the control panel but that's about all I've found.  

-----Original Message-----
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Eugene Baroni
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 4:49 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Workable alternatives to Creative

I am interested in the scripts. I only know how to install them. That is the

one area I know nothing about.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sunshine" <sunsh...@abe.midco.net>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: Workable alternatives to Creative


> Ok, Dave, you know what I  thought i might have been nice enough to scope
> out a script writer for your card but since you want to  go about treating
> people like trash, and that you are so very high and mighty you know what 
> go
> stick it where the sun don't shine!  for get it.
> If anyone here wants to know about the scripting asspect i have found let 
> me
> know.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" <d...@drakelroy.com>
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 4:27 PM
> Subject: RE: Workable alternatives to Creative
>
>
> Please go screw yourself.  You would do the rest of us a favor.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
> On Behalf Of Sunshine
> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 2:20 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Workable alternatives to Creative
>
> the work arounds i have are as follows, get a sighted person to help tweek
> the  card, work with scripters to make scripts for the screen reader/ or 
> use
>
> hot spot clicker to do the jobs you need to do.
> I have maped out for me what works best formy card.
> if you are wanting to tweek the sound that comes from yourmedia players 
> why
> not use the internal settings for each media player?
> Plus i have some knoledge of high and low settings for getting the best 
> out
> of  the card i have.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" <d...@drakelroy.com>
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 3:58 PM
> Subject: RE: Workable alternatives to Creative
>
>
> It is certainly conceivable that you don't care about the sound coming out
> of your card; that is your affair.  I, however, do and yes, I want and yes
> expect that I will be able to access what I paid for.  Clearly you don't
> have an answer to contribute and that's ok.  Equaly clearly you haven't 
> been
> reading this thread because I'm not the only one who has been having
> difficulties with Creative.  I am willing, however, to stand up and say 
> that
> we need access to what we pay for just as our seeing counterparts do.  It 
> is
> my obligation and my right to warn people against making the mistakes that

> I
> have.
>
> Now I notice that happy as you are with this card, you have made no effort
> to discuss whatever workarounds you may have established, which leads me 
> to
> believe that you are just using the card in its flat default response. 
> This
> is your privilege, but I want at least the ability to get some treble out 
> of
> the high end.  Since this appears to be too much to ask, I am now asking 
> for
> alternatives and chosing to walk away from this company, which I find to 
> be
> entirely unresponsive.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
> On Behalf Of Sunshine
> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 1:09 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Workable alternatives to Creative
>
> dave, i think your behavior towards this company is not  outstanding just
> because you have trouble with a product doesnt mean others have problems
> with their products, doesn't?
> I for one have had really good luck with the creative tech support when
> asking questions
> they have been able to point out things to me.
> they do listen to blind people.
> SOmetimes.
> you have to wonder weather or not blind people really just want to be
> sighted.
> if you do ot like the x-fi card you have you can always go for something
> else but for blind people I belive if that a product works for them then
> leave  the company alone.
> I have been using creative products all  the time and have had no troubles
> configuring them.
> We do not need to boycot the company. just because you say we should. do 
> we?
> are you an athority of sound cards, or the one that tells  everyone to do
> what and when? just wondering.
> if script writers would take a look at the cards interface, and ask the
> right questions maybe just maybe a person could script the cards.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" <d...@drakelroy.com>
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 1:52 PM
> Subject: Workable alternatives to Creative
>
>
> Are there any sound cards left out there that one can actually control?  I
> really think we need to boycott Creative as their no good foreign tech
> support has been worse than useless.  There is no answer at the corporate
> office so I am unable to lodge a complaint anywhere that anyone will 
> listen
> to.  This company should dry up and die.  Go back to Singapore and croke!
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