Hi Tina. No, I have not heard of twisted wave, but I know almost all audio 
editing is done visually and I know I would be a lot faster at it if I could 
see. However, just like staring at levels versus listening to the sound in your 
headphones. I find some sighted people making some big audio mistakes, probably 
just by looking at wave forms as opposed to actually listening to the piece 
they're cutting up.
If you get any more info on this program, please share.
Tc


-----Original Message-----
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tina Wilson
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 3:47 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Editing Mouth Noise and Braille Display Clicks

You are right. It does take a lot of patience. I have friends who think I'm 
nuts for doing it. 

I'm just curious. Have you heard of Twisted Wave? I know sighted people who 
love it, but I have the feeling that it's not accessible for us. 

Tina  

-----Original Message-----
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 3:32 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Editing Mouth Noise and Braille Display Clicks

Hi. I have done voice-over work as well and I am a Goldwave user.
I am a former Sound Forge user but SF had too many bells and whistles for me. I 
do all of my editing (and other folks as well) with Goldwave.
I used SF a long time ago (before they got bought by Soni) and I saw more and 
more accessibility slipping away.
Once I found out about how Goldwave was really implementing accessible 
features, and the fact that they seemed to actually care... I went with 
Goldwave.
Just as an example. I had a sighted co-worker at the radio station who always 
made these little grunts and groans after she would read a sentence. It was 
very anoying to have to sift through every sentence and cut out these little 
(sometimes erotic sounding sighs and moans) So, I don't think it really matters 
what program your using as long as you're good at editing and you have the ear 
and the patience to do it.
I don't really know if my reply is any help, but there it is anyway!
SF and Goldwave are great products. I'm not trying to start any kind of 
debate...
Just saying I was a Sound Forge user many many years ago and I have been a 
proud GW user too!
And, while reading this I have one more suggestion for those "editors" out 
there. There is such a thing as over editing. Some people get too friendly with 
deleting, and lose the rhythm of natural speech.
I recall listening to a "Main Menu" show a few years back where someone decided 
to cut out all breaths and pauses, they made the presenter sound like a robot 
and it was unlistenable.
So, just a heads-up!
Jmt
bb
-----Original Message-----
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of tim cumings
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 1:19 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Editing Mouth Noise and Braille Display Clicks

Danny, there's no difference in editing capabilities between sound forge and 
goldwave. As someone else has said, if you are picking up mouth noises and 
noise from your braille display, perhaps hyou should think about swithcing to a 
different microphone which might be lsee sensitive and have a different pickup 
pattern. For example, a dynamic microphone with a cardioid pattern might help 
in this situation.
\On 3/10/2015 3:24 PM, Danny Miles wrote:
> Hi Tina.  Thanks very much for this info.
>
> Do you feel that SF is better than GW or are they pretty comparable?
> Anybody else's thoughts on this would also be appreciated.  Of course 
> buying SF would be a considerable outlay, but it is in the cause of 
> professional work, so I guess it depends whether there's a significant 
> advantage to it or not.
>
> Also, as previously mentioned, I currently record my audio via the Sam 
> broadcasting encoders and simply edit in GoldWave.  Is this advisable 
> or would it be better to simply do everything in an audio editing 
> package?
>
> Danny
>
>
>
> On 3/10/15, Tina Wilson <tinatee...@cox.net> wrote:
>> Hello Danny,
>>
>> In order to receive the scripts for Sound Forge, send an email to Jim 
>> Snowberger at:
>>
>> snow...@snowmanradio.com. He charges $30, and he's a great guy. Hope 
>> this helps.
>>
>> Tina
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Danny Miles
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 12:15 PM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Editing Mouth Noise and Braille Display Clicks
>>
>> Hi Jamie.  Thanks for your message.
>>
>> I'm using a Shure SM58, which I understand to be one of the most 
>> commonly-used all-purpose vocal mics.  I plug my mic into a mixer 
>> rather than using a USB mic ... do you have any better suggestions?
>> I do use a pop shield, so I don't have issues with plosives, but the 
>> Braille display and mouth noises seem more evident than I expected.
>>
>> Also, I wasn't aware that there were Jaws scripts for Sound Forge.  I 
>> used SF before I started with GoldWave many years ago and, generally, 
>> I think GoldWave works just as well.  However, if you can please 
>> advise on how to obtain the scripts for SF it might be worth contemplating.
>>
>> Many thanks, Danny
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/10/15, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> You could try Sound Forge and with the Jaws scripts you can use the 
>>> EQ, shift and pitch sliders Etc.
>>>
>>> If you have some vision, Adobe Audition is very good also if it's 
>>> still available. Both these programs cost around $300 to $400 each.
>>>
>>> Also look at the type of mike your using.
>>>
>>> Jamie
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
>>> Danny Miles
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 10 March 2015 9:09 PM
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Editing Mouth Noise and Braille Display Clicks
>>>
>>> Hello everyone.  I wonder if anybody can please advise.
>>>
>>> I currently record using a broadcasting encoder and edit my content 
>>> using GoldWave.  However, I'm having significant issues with the 
>>> presence of mouth clicks and the constant sounds of my Braille 
>>> display as I move from line to line (or as the cursor flashes).
>>>
>>> I find that GoldWave's editing options are generally too weak to 
>>> have any impact or too aggressive to leave a high-quality recording.
>>> I currently have Depopper; could this be used to remove the issues 
>>> described above (and also the hiss of room ambience)?  If so, any 
>>> advice on particular settings would be appreciated.  If not, can 
>>> anybody please make any other suggestions?
>>>
>>> Many thanks, Danny
>>>
>>>
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