To start with, $ args mean different things in message boxes, so it's not clear what $0 would mean in a message box. Making $0 in a message box behave like $0 in an object box could be a quick hack, but it could also have ramifications going forward.
.hc On Aug 16, 2007, at 7:20 PM, Thomas Grill wrote: > True - i could never understand why this isn't the case. But i > remember that there have been related discussions on the list months > or years ago > greetings, Thomas > > Am 16.08.2007 um 19:10 schrieb marius schebella: > >> it is a pity that there is no $0 in messages. that would help so >> much! >> most of the time I use local send/receive like s $0-blabla. with >> messages you always have to mess with workaounds to achieve the >> same result. >> marius. >> >> >> Roman Haefeli wrote: >>> i don't know if there is a technical difference in efficiency, but >>> there >>> is a difference in use. at least before 0.40, using [; $1 $2( was >>> the >>> only way to achieve a settable send. >>> there is also a cosmetic aspect: if you want to collect some initial >>> values together at some place, it is much nicer to have only one >>> message >>> box, where all values can be stored instead of having a >>> >>> [loadbang] >>> | >>> [13] >>> | >>> [s value] >>> >>> construction for each value. >>> >>> this: >>> >>> [loadbang] >>> |__________________ >>> |; / >>> |value 34 | >>> |somevalue 127 | >>> |othervalue 57 | >>> |yoyo 1___________\ >>> >>> looks much nicer and is easier to edit, isn't it? >>> >>> roman >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, 2007-08-16 at 12:36 -0400, marius schebella wrote: >>>> Hey, >>>> when I look through miller's tutorial patches, I often find ";- >>>> messages" >>>> instead of a send object like: >>>> [;detune $1( >>>> vs >>>> [s detune] >>>> I wonder why, is there a significant difference? is one more >>>> efficient >>>> then the other (if yes, I always thought send is more >>>> efficient..?). >>>> this is not urgent, I can sleep without an answer! just curious. >>>> marius. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> PD-list@iem.at mailing list >>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ >>>> listinfo/pd-list >>> >>> >>> >>> ___________________________________________________________ >>> Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http:// >>> messenger.yahoo.de >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PD-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ >> listinfo/pd-list >> > > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- kill your television _______________________________________________ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list