You can add a redirect page for that translation, instead of changing every page. basically create a new page [[XXXXXX:vanilla]] and then add this text to that page:
#redirect [[Category:vanilla]] .hc On Nov 29, 2007, at 11:32 PM, PSPunch wrote: > > Hans, > > > Problem solved. > > When the pages were imported from the original > English page, the line > [[Category:vanilla]] > > in all pages were replaced with > [[XXXXXX:vanilla]] > > where XXXXXX is the translated term for 'Category'. > > This should have remained untranslated for MediaWiki > to parse properly and add that page to the category it > claimed to belong to. > > > Thanks for all the help though. > Now I feel comfortable to start seeking volunteers to start > working on pages :) > > -- > David Shimamoto > > >> On Nov 29, 2007, at 12:24 AM, PSPunch wrote: >>> Hans, >>> >>> >>>> The lists are built automatically by mediawiki from every page >>>> that has >>>> [[Category:objectclass]] and [[Category:vanilla]] in it. >>> >>> In this case, 'Category' and 'Object class' is replaced by the >>> localized >>> term defined in the template.. I see the links in the Spanish page >>> functioning properly in this manner. >>> >>> Combinations I've tried so far do not seem to work. >>> >>> Am I the only one dealing with multi byte characters at this >>> site so far? >>> I am beginning to have a bad feeling about their behavior. >> >> Yeah, you are the first working with multi-byte characters. The >> Chinese >> and Japanese wikipedia sites are pretty large, so I think that >> multi-byte characters should work fine. I don't think any of us are >> experts in MediaWiki, the software used for Pdpedia. You might try a >> mediawiki forum. >> >> .hc >> >> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> David Shimamoto >>> >>> >>>> >>>> .hc >>>> >>>> On Nov 28, 2007, at 12:12 PM, PSPunch wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hans, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Ok, I figure only the page names are copied. >>>>> >>>>> One last question if before I start adding text.. >>>>> >>>>> I don't quite understand the mechanism behind pages such as, >>>>> >>>>> http://wiki.puredata.info/en/Category:objectclass >>>>> http://wiki.puredata.info/en/Category:vanilla >>>>> >>>>> Can you please tell me where the list of objects come from? >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> David Shimamoto >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Looks like you got the Infobox working now. As for the English >>>>>> content, >>>>>> none of the previous people wanted to have the English content in >>>>>> their >>>>>> template import, so I didn't include it. It's all available by >>>>>> clicking >>>>>> the "English" link on the lower left of each page. >>>>>> >>>>>> .hc >>>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 28, 2007, at 3:15 AM, PSPunch wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hans, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>> I am terribly sorry to bother you with this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To my eyes, the following two pages look almost identical. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://wiki.puredata.info/en/MediaWiki:Common.css >>>>>>> http://wiki.puredata.info/ja/MediaWiki:Common.css >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://wiki.puredata.info/en/Template:Infobox_Objectclass >>>>>>> http://wiki.puredata.info/ja/Template:Infobox_Objectclass >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> After you've kindly executed the import, I was imagining >>>>>>> that for example, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://wiki.puredata.info/ja/line >>>>>>> would be filled with English contents identical to >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://wiki.puredata.info/ja/line >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Unless I've done something wrong, I am imagining I've >>>>>>> translated terms I shouldn't have in the original template. >>>>>>> Say, for example, is 'Category:' parsed exceptionally for >>>>>>> specific actions? Then it shouldn't have been replaced >>>>>>> with multi byte characters of my language. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any ideas? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> David Shimamoto >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Nov 27, 2007, at 12:03 AM, PSPunch wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hans, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ok, it's running, it'll take an hour or two. You can see the >>>>>>>>>> pages as >>>>>>>>>> they are imported: >>>>>>>>>> http://wiki.puredata.info/ja/minimum >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks for the effort! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes, I see the log increasing as a reload the "recent changes" >>>>>>>>> page. >>>>>>>>> Is it just me or is it general to get excited watching >>>>>>>>> massive data being crunched right in front of your very eyes? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Some pages I opened were just blank. >>>>>>>>> I wonder if this is because the original English page >>>>>>>>> is also blank... any way I will wait for the processing to >>>>>>>>> end. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There shouldn't be blank pages, but they will just be templates >>>>>>>> with the >>>>>>>> infobox and the categories setup. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Next, you need to add the CSS and Infobox template then the >>>>>>>>>> infobox >>>>>>>>>> stuff will show up. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I feel I've already done this following the "admin HOW-TO". >>>>>>>>> If it gets over written, I guess I can just try again. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think it's still missing the CSS, that should be listed on >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> HOWTO. >>>>>>>> That's why the Infobox isn't showing up. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> .hc >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> doh itashimashite (that's one of my favorite words in >>>>>>>>>> japanese >>>>>>>>>> :D ) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes, domo-arigato-gozaimas!! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> .hc >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Nov 24, 2007, at 8:30 PM, PSPunch wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hans, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Most of the main page is taken from the documents kindly >>>>>>>>>>> prepared >>>>>>>>>>> by Tetsuya Saito. The objectclass template page mainly >>>>>>>>>>> has terms >>>>>>>>>>> unified with the main page. So for that part I feel >>>>>>>>>>> comfortable to >>>>>>>>>>> proceed. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'd appreciate it if you can execute the import. >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. :) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> David Shimamoto >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I can execute the import whenever you're ready. Maybe it >>>>>>>>>>>> would be >>>>>>>>>>>> good >>>>>>>>>>>> to have one more Japanese speaker look at the template? >>>>>>>>>>>> It's >>>>>>>>>>>> up to >>>>>>>>>>>> you. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> .hc >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2007, at 9:57 PM, PSPunch wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hans, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've followed the procedure in the English 'Admin howtos' >>>>>>>>>>>>> pages. >>>>>>>>>>>>> I would appreciate it if you could try executing the >>>>>>>>>>>>> import. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> David Shimamoto >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2007, at 2:20 AM, PSPunch wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi list, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have some questions for some of you working on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pdpedia. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ======= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Has there already been discussions on policies regarding >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when/which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pages to lock? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am assuming that leaving everything unlocked is the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go if >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the world were an ideal place. Are there not yet >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MediaWiki >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spammers? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Locking pages is basically for when people are >>>>>>>>>>>>>> fighting over a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> page. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't imagine that anything is so divisive in Pd that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> we'd >>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> lock >>>>>>>>>>>>>> pages. So far, we haven't had any spam yet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ======= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regarding importing data from other languages.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For some basic pages, I have gotten away with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> procedure. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I. Open the pdpedia page in English. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> II. Enter "edit" mode and [copy] the contents in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> form >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> III. Create an equivalent page in my language and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [paste] the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> material >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> above. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IV. Use above as a starting point to begin translation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The above does not work for pages such as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Category:vanilla'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't quite understand how that content is embedded >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can some one help me on importing the list of objects? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've noticed that people working on the Spanish and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Portuguese >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pages >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have been successful in this. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once that translated template that you posted is ready >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to go, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll >>>>>>>>>>>>>> run the import. That will generate template pages for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2000 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> objectclasses. Then it's a matter of plugging in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> content, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>>>>> can be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> gathered from pages in other languages, help patches, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> .hc >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Shimamoto >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PD-list@iem.at mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking at things from a more basic level, you can >>>>>>>>>>>>>> come up >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>>>>>>> direct solution... 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