Does this wish shell in Contents/MacOS have the Tcl/Tk Frameworks built into it (whether Carbon or Cocoa)?
Its working now, thanks. Nice method, I have one symlinked to the svn repository and one for myself to hack on. cheers, Rich On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <h...@at.or.at>wrote: > > On Jan 17, 2010, at 3:01 PM, Rich E wrote: > > > > On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <h...@at.or.at>wrote: > >> >> On Jan 17, 2010, at 10:10 AM, Rich E wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 12:29 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner >> <h...@at.or.at>wrote: >> >>> >>> On Jan 9, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Rich E wrote: >>> >>> >>> Still in OS X 10.6. I don't have one of these problems with >>> Pd-devel-0.43 (dec 15) nightly build, so it must all be because of the >>> tk/cocoa version that you mention. I'm not sure how to report it a tcl >>> mailing list, as I don't know where the code is that implements these >>> things. >>> >>> Does it make sense that the arrow keys are detected differently in >>> Tk/Cocoa, so they are just sent to pd's gui C code as spaces? >>> >>> >>> Not to me... it should be the same, that's why its worth reporting to >>> tcl-mac. You don't need to know the exact code that's causing the problem. >>> I read that list too, so I can fill in the details. I just don't have >>> access to a 10.6 machine these days. >>> >>> As for the text color issue in the audio settings, you'll have to point >>> me towards what is controlling that. I'll send you a screenshot after this >>> email. >>> >>> >>> Check out dialog_audio.tcl. Its still mostly the original code, so it >>> can be scary. ;) >>> >>> Do you know how I can force configure to use Tcl/Tk 8.5.7/Carbon? >>> >>> >>> If you put a version of Tcl/Tk 8.5.7/Carbon frameworks into >>> /Library/Frameworks, it should use them over the build in ones. But that >>> means using the Makefile in packages/darwin_app and running "make install". >>> For development, I just rename a nighly build as "Pd-devel.app" then inside >>> the package, remove some guts and symlink it to my pd-gui-rewrite/0.43 >>> sources: >>> >>> h...@palatschinken.at.or.at:src > ls -l >>> /Applications/Pd-devel.app/Contents/Resources/ >>> total 152 >>> lrwxr-xr-x 1 hans staff 3 2010-01-05 14:27 Scripts -> bin/ >>> -r--r--r-- 1 hans staff 47204 2008-08-14 20:03 VolumeIcon.icns >>> -r--r--r-- 1 hans staff 545 2008-07-21 13:53 Wish.rsrc >>> lrwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 59 2010-01-05 14:32 bin -> >>> /Users/hans/code/pure-data/branches/pd-gui-rewrite/0.43/src/ >>> dr-xr-xr-x 13 hans staff 442 2009-12-15 08:41 doc/ >>> dr-xr-xr-x 180 hans staff 6120 2009-12-15 08:52 extra/ >>> dr-xr-xr-x 6 hans staff 204 2009-12-15 08:41 include/ >>> -r--r--r-- 1 hans staff 42741 2008-02-14 18:14 pd-file.icns >>> -r--r--r-- 1 hans staff 37100 2008-02-14 18:14 pd.icns >>> lrwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 58 2010-01-05 14:31 po -> >>> /Users/hans/code/pure-data/branches/pd-gui-rewrite/0.43/po/ >>> dr-xr-xr-x 3 hans staff 102 2009-12-15 08:41 share/ >>> lrwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 63 2010-01-05 14:31 startup -> >>> /Users/hans/code/pure-data/branches/pd-gui-rewrite/0.43/startup/ >>> >>> >> I like this way of running the newest sources from within the app bundle, >> but I can't get it working yet. I had to replace the executable in >> Contents/MacOS, but then it cannot find pd-gui.tcl (I removed the bin folder >> in the Resources directory and symlinked it to the pd-gui-rewrite/src/, like >> you did). >> >> rich >> >> >> >> Literally all I did was: >> >> - download nightly Pd-devel build >> - cd /path/to/Pd-devel.app/Contents/Resources >> - rm -rf bin >> - ln -s /path/to/pd-gui-rewrite/0.43/src bin >> - ln -s /path/to/pd-gui-rewrite/0.43/po >> - ln -s /path/to/pd-gui-rewrite/0.43/startup >> >> .hc >> >> >> > Really. I do this and the executable in the Contents/MacOS folder is still > run and not the one in the symlinked directory. Oh well. > > > Ah, ok, I understand now. The exe in Contents/MacOS is not Pd but the Wish > Shell, so you want it to run that. 'pd' resides in > Contents/Resources/bin/pd. Pd is two processes: 'pd-gui' (i.e. Wish) and > 'pd' (i.e Pd ;) > > .hc > > > Rich > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> .hc >>> >>> >>> I'll use the nightly build in the meantime and let you know what comes >>> up. >>> >>> -rich >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 4:40 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <h...@at.or.at>wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> First off, which platform? Is this still Mac OS X 10.6? If so, 10.6 >>>> has a built-in custom version of Tcl/Tk 8.5.7 that uses Cocoa for the back >>>> end rather than Carbon. Tcl/Tk 8.6 will only use this Cocoa backend, but >>>> will work on Mac OS X 10.5. It would be good to flush out these bugs and >>>> report them to the tcl-mac list so that they can get fixed. >>>> >>>> One thing to try is using one of the nightly builds, which include >>>> Tcl/Tk 8.5.7/Carbon. I think they should work on 10.6: >>>> http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/ >>>> >>>> On Nov 16, 2009, at 1:55 PM, Rich E wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi List, Hans, >>>>> >>>>> I've been using the pd-gui-rewrite-0.43 svn for a couple days now and >>>>> here are some notes I've taken when finding various bugs (is the better >>>>> sent >>>>> to the pd-dev list?): >>>>> >>>>> • In Audio Settings, the text in the drop down menus is hardly visible >>>>> because it is very light grey >>>>> >>>> >>>> Never seen that, screenshot? >>>> >>>> >>>> • there is a new menu item called 'apple' with "about pd" and >>>>> preferences" >>>>> >>>> >>>> Known issue with the Tk/Cocoa, haven't found a workaround yet. >>>> >>>> >>>> • editing an object name: >>>>> ‣ moving with arrows adds a space to the end, but does not move within >>>>> the object name >>>>> >>>> >>>> Hmm, can't reproduce, Tk/Cocoa issue? >>>> >>>> >>>> • opening "about pd" gives an error: >>>>> ‣ Error: can't read "pd_myversion": no such variable" >>>>> ‣ an't read "pd_myversion": no such variable >>>>> can't read "pd_myversion": no such variable >>>>> while executing >>>>> "regsub -all PD_VERSION $bigstring2 $pd_myversion bigstring3" >>>>> (procedure "::pd_menucommands::menu_opentext" line 15) >>>>> invoked from within >>>>> "::pd_menucommands::menu_opentext "$dirname/$basename"" >>>>> (".txt" arm line 1) >>>>> invoked from within >>>>> "switch -- [string tolower [file extension $basename]] { >>>>> ".txt" {::pd_menucommands::menu_opentext "$dirname/$basename" >>>>> } ".c" {::..." >>>>> (procedure "menu_doc_open" line 4) >>>>> invoked from within >>>>> "menu_doc_open doc/1.manual 1.introduction.txt" >>>>> (menu invoke) >>>>> >>>> >>>> Its not implemented yet... I was hoping to make "About Pd" a pd patch. >>>> >>>> >>>> I have some time on my hands now that I finished my Master's, and >>>>> frankly I think the pd-vanilla GUI is unpleasant, so I could learn tcl/tk >>>>> and help out, if needed. >>>>> >>>> >>>> That would be great! Your reports have already been helpful. I'm going >>>> to be in pretty deep this month till its finished and merged into Miller's >>>> 0.43 version. He's been relatively scarse on the lists, but we've been >>>> working thru this stuff off-list. >>>> >>>> .hc >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> "Making boring techno music is really easy with modern tools, but with >>>> live coding, boring techno is much harder." - Chris McCormick >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> "Free software means you control what your computer does. Non-free >>> software means someone else controls that, and to some extent controls you." >>> - Richard M. Stallman >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> I hate it when they say, "He gave his life for his country." Nobody gives >> their life for anything. We steal the lives of these kids. -Admiral Gene >> LeRocque >> >> > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > "We have nothing to fear from love and commitment." - New York > Senator Diane Savino, trying to convince the NY Senate to pass a gay > marriage bill > >
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