just two quick remarks:
1. there is a difference between an abstraction and a subpatch
2. i think it's worth it to show beginners how to count with internal objects. 
relying on a [counter] object - and you don't specify which one of the varous 
around - is asking for trouble.

2ct m.


Am 04.06.2010 um 18:37 schrieb patrick mcnameeking:

> Hello List -
> I gave a workshop on using Pd at this year's Megapolis Audio Festival in 
> Baltimore, MD.  I created a patch that was meant to be used as a launch-pad 
> to get people patching as quickly as possible.  This is my first attempt at 
> doing something like this, but I would really like to further the idea of 
> creating self-contained introductory patches that get people excited about 
> Pd.  I think that this could be a great tool for one-day workshops in schools 
> or at conferences where people have the interest in, but not necessarily the 
> background in sound and/or programming.  My idea with this patch was to have 
> some examples of different ways to make sound, an easily accessible reference 
> chart, and then a sub-patch containing a whole bunch of ready-made objects 
> for people to copy/paste and string together.  The hope was that eventually 
> people would break down the objects I created in order to figure out their 
> inner workings.  Some of that started to happen at Megapolis but the workshop 
> was fairly short and we had covered a lot of material.  
> Feedback on the patch as well as ideas on this type of workshop would be 
> greatly appreciated!
> Pat
> 
> http://megapolisfestival.org/
> 
> -- 
> 'Given enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow.'
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