And of course that should have read: IOhannes - please just carry on. (unconscious spelling mistakes piss me right off)
J On 24 March 2014 14:33, Julian Brooks <jbee...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ouch > > More bad vibes from our list and even more seems to be simmering and > emanating from within our community at the moment. What is up with this? I > dunno. > > I must confess to also having side-stepped pd-announce with a few things > over the past year or so and jumping direct to pd-list so something's not > functioning correctly with all this (quite often perhaps it's just the > delay in sending and waiting for it to appear that makes the poster jumpy > about it getting through IME). > > Anyways, I'll bite. > Ico, please keep posting stuff - it's interesting and good to be kept > abreast. > IOHannes - please just carry on:) > > In peace, > > Jb > > > On 24 March 2014 13:51, Ivica Ico Bukvic <i...@vt.edu> wrote: > >> > On 2014-03-22 17:03, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: >> > > Apologies for x-posting. >> > >> > i seem to remember that i have asked you this question multiple times >> > in private, but never received an answer: is there *any* reason to >> > make your announcements via pd-list instead of pd-announce [1]? >> > all emails to pd-announce are forwarded to pd-list, but some people >> > are only subscribed to pd-announce (as they are not interested in >> > day-to-day discussion). >> >> ...IOhannes, indeed we've had discussions in the past to the point where I >> believe no matter what I do will be adequate in your eyes. Your replies to >> anything I post to this list teem with negativity, and a good portion of >> the >> time are off-topic (which makes me wonder how does that fit into the >> mailing >> list netiquette?). Yet, knowing you from our in-person conversations, I >> know >> you are a lot nicer than what your posts to this list make you look like. >> >> > >> > btw, anybody can post to pd-announce (all emails get manual moderation >> > and are allowed if they are a proper announcement "related to Pd >> > somehow"). >> >> And yet, I had those rejected as well, although I am not sure if pd-l2ork >> announcement is considered related to Pd... It is conceivably possible >> that >> this was a case of having bunch of mailing lists in the TO: header in the >> same email which is also known to land them in the admin pile (depending >> on >> the mailing list configuration), but given that all pd-announce emails are >> (AFAICT) moderated, what escapes me is why would one reject this merely on >> the principle and then in turn double the work both for the poster and >> themselves? >> >> > >> > >> > > (resending because apparently the original was rejected because I >> > > was "not subscribed?"...) >> > >> > no. >> > it was rejected because the mailinglist has a built-in cross-posting >> > reject rule. see [2]. >> >> First of all, if this is the case, then your mailing list is not >> configured >> properly as it is giving a report that is false/misleading. Second, I >> think >> if this is an automatic bounce, it should happen instantaneously (which >> was >> not the case). If it is left for review of list admins (and hence the >> delay >> in response), then the trouble you went to reject the post could've been >> simply redirected by seeing from who the email came and what its purpose >> is, >> rather than creating even more work for everyone involved. Sure, that >> introduces exceptions, but in the end I feel it is a nice way of showing >> appreciation for those who went through the trouble of contributing to the >> community as I am sure you'll agree writing an announcement and providing >> free online resources requires a lot more time than reading a subject and >> ticking the "approve" checkbox... >> >> I also think this is extraneous (assuming the reject is automated). Like >> yourself, I manage over dozen mailing lists among many other things that >> keep me busy and even I choose to keep those kinds of posts for review >> because I am aware people when they announce things don't want to send >> dozen >> same emails but simply one. At the same time, I also don't want to create >> extra work for you or anyone else, so to cut my monologue short, if you >> and/or the community so desire, I will stop posting any further >> announcements on any pd list, so as not to annoy you (and possibly >> others). >> After all, you manage the list, and life is too short to spend time >> arguing >> over things like these... >> >> Please understand I won't reply to any further discussions on this >> matter... >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Ico >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > >
_______________________________________________ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list