Right! That's the way I do it with simple K-Bayonet lenses. Works 
perfectly for me (K10D and DS)
Jos

J. C. O'Connell wrote:
> THIS IS ALL MOOT, I HAVE FOUND WITH K AND M LENSES TO JUST
> ESTIMATE EXPOSURE BASED ON YEARS OF EXPERIENCE OR USE GREEN BUTTON
>
>
> AND THEN
> TWEEK FSTOP OR SHUTTER SPEED SETTINGS 
>
>
> BASED ON THE FIRST TEST EXPOSURE HISTOGRAM. THERE IS NO WAY YOU ARE
> GOING TO GET BETTER RESULTS THAN TWEEKING. ONLY ISSUE IS
> SPEED. BUT IF SPEED IS OF THE ESSENCE, YOU SHOULD BE
> USING KA OR KAF NOT K OR M.
> JCO
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John
> Francis
> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 12:28 AM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: K20 and manual aperture lenses
>
>
>
> It's also got something to do with the angle of incidence of the light on
> the metering screen.  The K10D (and later cameras) have a screen that's
> quite different from the one in the D bodies. The K10D compensates for the
> non-linear response of the system, but it assumes metering is being done
> wide open (I don't know what it assumes for a pre-A lens, but I'd guess
> f/2.8 or f/4.0). But if you're using stop-down metering at a small aperture
> the K10D calculates the exposure incorrectly.
>
> I'm glad I decided, back when I got my PZ-1p in 1995, to stick with a
> guideline of "A or later" for lens accquisitions.
>
>
> On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 11:03:57PM -0500, Bob Sullivan wrote:
>   
>> Bill,
>>
>> I've found some exposure error as well with K and M series lenses and 
>> the green button. Somebody else mentioned it, and I don't understand 
>> it?
>>
>> I thought the green button closed the aperture down and measured light 
>> exposure values. I can't imagine how this is off, but here is an 
>> example with K35/2 lens. (The lens was set at different apertures and 
>> green button pressed before exposure.)
>>
>> http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/K352ApertureTestOnK20d
>>
>> As you move away from wide open (f2) to smaller apertures (f12.8), 
>> light moves toward overexposure. (You can see more light in the big 
>> shadow on the right.) This did the same with an M400/5.6 although I 
>> didn't post the details.
>>
>> All I can figure is that it has something to do with the aperture 
>> lever being linear. Since the A lenses (and later), the movement has 
>> been linear. With the earlier M and K lenses, the movement is 
>> non-linear. Is it possible that the K20D measures the right exposure, 
>> and then sets a matching A lens aperture,
>> not closing the lens all the way down to the f12.8 we have set?
>>
>> Regards,  Bob S.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 8:56 PM, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>     
>>> One of the guys on the Pentax Dysfunctional Web Forum chalenged me 
>>> to test my K20 exposure system with manual aperture lenses (green 
>>> button manual). The camera failed miserably, over exposing by quite 
>>> a large amount at all f-stops but maximum and minimum. Would it be 
>>> possible for some others of us to run the following test:
>>>
>>> Put a non A series lens onto their camera doesn't matter which, but 
>>> it would be nice to have details, and run a series of exposures from 
>>> maximum aperture to minimum aperture to test the linearity of the 
>>> metering and perhaps report back.
>>>
>>> Sorry if this has been discussed before.
>>>
>>> I ran the test with several lenses, and then put an original 
>>> equipment istD screen into the K20 as buddy thought that the screen 
>>> itself was at fault, and insisted that it had been a problem with 
>>> every DSLR since the istD. The screen was not the problem.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
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